Used Fz 37 for sale (3,295)

Condition: excellent (used), Bezel (28388) SPH 360 mm Weight 37 kg Dimensions, see drawing Nedpfx Ahemkfd Ssvscp

Condition: excellent (used), 37 running meters pallet rack Meta Njdsh R I Uaspfx Ahvecp Used, very good condition, see pictures height 5,5 m depth 110 cm beam length 3,6 m Load / compartment 3000 kg Frame galvanized Beam red Negotiable price: € 3.650,-- net ex stock Offer consists of: + 11 pcs. frames pre-assembled, depth 110 cm, height 5,5 m + 60 pcs. beams, length 3,6 m, 3000 kg load/slot + 120 pcs. suspension locks + 22 pcs. concrete anchors Goods are in stock. Transport and assembly possible on request. Inspection possible at any time by arrangement. More info on request. Constantly over 5000 running meters of pallet racks from numerous manufacturers in stock. (Changes and errors in the technical data, specifications and prices and prices as well as prior sale reserved! See our terms and conditions, all prices excl. VAT ex stock) Purchase / Sale We are constantly looking for, or offer numerous items from various areas broom-clean business clearances company liquidations Fast- flexible - ready to hit! We also clear and dispose for liquidators. Write us with some keywords, we will contact you immediately. To get to our site, please click on our logo!

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1996, operating hours: 5,696 h, travel distance X-axis: 550 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 330 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 425 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: Series 21M, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, number of slots in tool magazine: 12, number of axes: 3, This 3-axis CHIRON FZ 12 S High speed was manufactured in 1996. It features an X-axis travel of 550 mm, Y-axis travel of 330 mm, and Z-axis travel of 425 mm. The machine has a spindle speed of 12,000 rpm and a tool capacity of 12 tools. If you are looking to get high-quality machining capabilities, consider the CHIRON FZ 12 S High speed vertical machining centre we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Installed options: Preparation for 4th and 5th axis (control cabinet ready) • Status: Powered on, fully functional • Machine hours: 5,696 h Additional equipment • Pneumatic vices • Approximately 40 tool holders Nedpfxeywy Sne Ahvocp • Chip tray Technical Specification Taper Size SK 30

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2002, operating hours: 4,486 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 3,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,360 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,500 mm, rotational speed (max.): 18,000 rpm, controller model: Fidia C20 mit Bedienteil HPX, The machine is in fully operational, very good condition. It has been dismantled, is in storage, and available immediately! TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel range X-axis: 3,000 mm Travel range Y-axis: 2,360 mm Travel range Z-axis: 1,500 mm Rotary axis A: 105° Rotary axis C: 300° Ncodpfxjywgyro Ahvjp Clamping area: 5,000 mm x 2,000 mm Table load: 15,000 kg/m² T-slot spacing: 18H12 / 250 mm Feed rate X, Y, Z axes: 20 m/min Axis acceleration X, Y, Z axes: 1.5 m/s² Max. spindle speed: 18,000 rpm Torque: 90 Nm Tool holder: HSK 63A MACHINE DETAILS Spindle power: 28 kW Connected load: 40 kW Main fuse: 80 A Spindle hours: 4,486 h Machine hours: 146,161 h Dimensions & Weight Space required for machine with peripherals (L x W x H): 7,300 x 5,600 x 5,600 mm Machine weight: 16,500 kg EQUIPMENT 3-sided enclosure, without extraction ducts

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, x-travel 550 mm y-travel 500 mm z-travel 400 mm Control Siemens spindle tunring speed 12.000 U/min table surface area 1050 x 450 mm table load 500 kg In our opinion, the machine is in good used condition and can be inspected under power by appointment. Accessories, tools and clamping devices shown are only included in the scope of delivery if this is noted in the additional information. Ncedpsynnu Dsfx Ahvsp Subject to changes and errors in the technical data and information as well as prior sale!

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2006, Spindle 12000 TR:MN CN SIEMENS SINUMERIK 258-38. Number of hours on the counter: 85 642 hours total machine power 30 KVA stroke X 300 mm, stroke Y 400 mm, stroke Z 425 mm spindle speed 12000 rpm Ncedon D D Nhopfx Ahvsp travel speed 60m/min tool attachment SA40 2 UNITS AVAILABLE

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, total length: 4,600 mm, total width: 2,200 mm, total height: 3,000 mm, Weight: 21.500 kg Price: On request - Year: 2004 - Documentation available: No - CE marking present: Yes - CE certificate present: No - Serial number: 12.2235 - Drive system: CNC - Control system brand: Delem - Power [kW]: 33.5 - Number of axes [pcs]: 6: Y1+Y2+X+R+Z1+Z2 - Press force [ton]: 300 Nsdpfx Ahsyvt Dzjvocp - Max. working width [mm]: 4300 - Column gap [mm]: 3700 - Crowning system: CNC-controlled - Punch holder: Hydraulic - Tool holder type: WILA-standard - Tools included: Yes - Options: Finger safety guard - Transport dimensions: 4600mm x 2200mm x 3000mm (l x w x h) - Transport weight [kg]: 21500kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 1 Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Lukas van Rossum

Condition: excellent (used), Spindle Moulder SCHELLING FZ 4 Heavy-duty cast-iron construction Motor speeds: 2250, 3000, 4500, 6000, 9000 rpm Motor power: 4.5 kW, 400 V, 50 Hz Spindle diameter: 30 mm Spindle height adjustment: 100 mm Table dimensions (L x W): 1100 x 900 mm Extraction port diameters: 120 & 80 mm Nsdpjxt N Dvofx Ahvscp Spindle with forward and reverse rotation Electric motor brake Milling fence rotatable and finely adjustable OERTLI milling fence jaws with aluminium inserts INCLUDES HOLZHER power feed unit 3 rollers 4 speeds Machine dimensions (L x W x H): 1100 x 900 x 1200 mm Machine weight: approx. 750 kg Note on used machines: • Errors in technical specifications and prior sale are excepted. • Listed prices are ex-works prices - free loading at location! • The machines have been cleaned and function-tested. • All machines are sold as inspected, without any form of warranty. Buyers are welcome to inspect machines at the location. • Special agreements are only valid in written form. (We only respond to enquiries with your address and telephone number!)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2003, Immediately available from training center: CNC machining center Chiron Type FZ 12 W Magnum High Speed, year of manufacture 2003, very few operating hours, Sinumerik 840 D – S, table 850 x 350 mm, travel X/Y/Z 550/300/425 mm, SK 40, 20-position tool changer, spindle speeds 60 – 10,500 rpm, table load 150 kg, spindle 18 kW, chip conveyor, weight 4 tons. Price: EUR 6,000 plus VAT ex location. Njdpfxjyw Nble Ahvjcp

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2009, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: GG520A-17518 & GG502S-16471, total width: 5,100 mm, total length: 5,350 mm, total height: 1,500 mm, overall weight: 3,250 kg, type of input current: three-phase, input frequency: 50 Hz, pressure: 8 bar, cutting length (max.): 3,700 mm, Maximum measurement: 3210 mm Minimum measurement: 150 mm Maximum cutting length: 3700 mm Minimum cutting length: 250 mm Monolithic: 3–10 mm Laminated: minimum 2+0.38+2 (22-1) Nsdoycgiispfx Ahvscp maximum 8+4.56+8 (88-12) Maximum glass weight for loading/unloading on arms: 450 kg

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: GG520A-19388, total width: 5,272 mm, total length: 12,500 mm, total height: 1,500 mm, overall weight: 5,300 kg, type of input current: three-phase, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, pressure: 8 bar, Bottero 520LAMe-37: Automatic machine for cutting, breaking and separating laminated glass. SN GG520A-19388 from 2011. Automatic positioning based on optimisation, automatic blade, 2 independent heating element sections, 20mm trimming, laser device for positioning diagonal cuts. Max cut 3700mm, max speed 100m/min, min 2/2 and max 8/8mm. Included: New felt (5mm) on the unloading table, the 520 LAMe-37 has also been serviced. Njdpfx Ahexg Nxysvjcp

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2004, control type: CNC control, actuation type: hydraulic, controller manufacturer: Delem DA 65W, bending force (max.): 230 t, working width: 4,300 mm, stroke length: 350 mm, distance between stands: 3,700 mm, operating speed: 10 mm/s, number of axes: 5, travel distance X-axis: 1,000 mm, overall weight: 22,500 kg, total length: 6,000 mm, total width: 2,000 mm, total height: 3,400 mm, power: 25 kW (33.99 HP), Press brake DARLEY - EHP-LS 230 43/37 Nsdpfeyvh S Tjx Ahvjcp MACH-ID 9469 Make: DARLEY Type: EHP-LS 230 43/37 Control: Delem DA 65W Year: 2004 Max. bending length: 4300mm Distance between column: 3700mm Max. pressing force: 230T Beam stroke: 350mm Table Width: 250mm Troth beam: 400mm Approch speed: 100mm/min. Working speed: 10mm/min. Return speed: 100mm/min. Adjustment X-Axis back gauge:1000mm Number of controlled axis: 5 Crowning: yes Hydraulic toolclamping: yes Power: 25kW Length: 6000mm Width: 2000mm Height: 3400mm Weight: 22500kg Please Note: The information on this page has been obtained to the best of our ability and belief, and from the manufacturers where possible. It is given in good faith, but its accuracy can not be guaranteed. Accordingly, it will not form a representation or constitute contractual terms. We advise you to check any vital details!

Condition: used, • Model – Genius 37 CT-S • Year of manufacture – 2007, serial number: 86592 • Max. glass size: 3300 x 2550 mm • Glass thickness: 3 – 19 mm • Can also cut shapes, offcut optimization, data input at the cutting table • With breaking bars and strong air cushions Nsdpfx Ahewz U Hbevecp • Table can also tilt • Working height: 900 mm • Weight: 2600 kg

Condition: repair required (used), Year of construction: 2001, functionality: limited functionality, travel distance X-axis: 2,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 450 mm, nominal power (apparent): 37 kVA, controller manufacturer: Sinumerik 840 D, overall weight: 7,000 kg, spindle speed (min.): 10,000 rpm, Equipment: chip conveyor, - SK 40 Ncodpfxeywpa Ie Ahvsp - The machine is currently idle. - The buffer battery is depleted, resulting in the PLC connection being interrupted. Before commissioning, the connection must be restored; otherwise, axis movement is not possible. The machine can be inspected under power at any time.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 213-65, Technical Specifications: Chiron FZ 08 S CNC Control Manufacturer: Fanuc CNC Control Model: 21m 3x / 2x 21iM Travel X-axis: 300 mm Travel Y-axis: 250 mm Travel Z-axis: 250 mm Max. workpiece weight: 1 kg Number of tool positions: 12 Coolant supply: 1 bar Number of spindles: 1 Rapid traverse Z-axis: 60 m/min Rapid traverse X-axis: 40 m/min Nsdpfx Aeywmzishvocp Rapid traverse Y-axis: 40 m/min Max. spindle speed: 10,000 rpm Max. workpiece diameter: 63 mm 4th Axis: Peiseler AWU P100 The machines were overhauled by Chiron CMS in 2016 Equipment: documentation/manual, infinitely variable spindle speed According to our assessment, the machine is in good used condition and can be inspected under power by appointment.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1991, Travel X/Y/Z: 1600mm/400mm/425mm, table dimensions X/Y: 2000mm/400mm, max. table load: 350kg, tool positions: 12, tool holder: SK30, speed: 6300rpm, feed rate: 10m/min, rapid traverse: 20m/min, machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 4000mm/2300mm/2800mm, weight: approx. 5000kg, control: Siemens Sinumerik. The hoses, the Y-axis cover, and the battery (data loss) are in need of repair. An on-site inspection is possible. Nsdpfxsywlp Ss Ahvscp

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2006, BOTTERO 520 LAM-37 – Year 2006 Ncodpfx Aheyuuinsvep Cutting table for laminated glass Fixed worktop with flap Air cushion Max cutting length: 3,700 mm Min. cutting length: 250 mm Thickness: 3–10 mm (monolithic) 2+0.38+2 mm min. (laminated) 8+4.56+8 mm max. (laminated) Speed: 100 m/min Installed basic power: 15 kW

Condition: used, maximum load weight: 12,650 kg, overall weight: 18,000 kg, axle configuration: 2 axles, first registration: 03/2018, next inspection (TÜV): 09/2025, loading space length: 7,400 mm, loading space width: 2,450 mm, loading space height: 2,300 mm, loading space volume: 41 m³, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 3,580 mm, Equipment: ABS, tail-lift, * Tail lift - Palfinger MBB 2000kg * Air suspension Safety: ABS * EBS * Disc brakes * 4x Jost crank supports * Spare wheel holder Ncodpfxoyvw S Ns Ahvep * Wabco braking system * Tyres: 385/65R22.5 * Lashing rail * Interior lighting

Condition: excellent (used), mileage: 856,000 km, power: 242 kW (329.03 HP), first registration: 04/1999, fuel type: diesel, number of seats: 37, gearing type: mechanical, axle configuration: 4x2, emission class: euro2, color: white, brakes: retarder, suspension: steel-air, wheelbase: 4,900 mm, Year of construction: 1999, Equipment: air conditioning, power assisted steering, = Additional options and accessories = - Electric windows - Air conditioning - Leather interior - Leather upholstery - Air-suspended seats - Radio/CD player - Sliding roof - Toilet - Automatic heating system Ncedpfxoyvvcae Ahvep = Further information = Technical information Number of cylinders: 6 Engine displacement: 11,630 cc Front axle: Max. axle load: 6,500 kg; Tire tread left: 80%; Tire tread right: 80%; Suspension: leaf-spring suspension Rear axle: Twin tires; Max. axle load: 11,500 kg; Tire tread left inner: 40%; Tire tread left outer: 40%; Tire tread right inner: 40%; Tire tread right outer: 40%; Suspension: air suspension Dimensions Dimensions (L x W): 1,036 x 250 cm Weights Unladen weight: 11,660 kg Payload: 6,340 kg Gross vehicle weight (GVW): 18,000 kg Interior Upholstery: Leather Condition Technical condition: very good Visual condition: very good Further information Please contact Andre, Henri, or Andre for more information.

Condition: defective spare-parts repository (used), Year of construction: 1996, functionality: limited functionality, travel distance X-axis: 2,800 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 520 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 630 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 40 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 30 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30 m/min, feed length X-axis: 2,700 mm, feed length Y-axis: 520 mm, feed length Z-axis: 630 mm, feed rate X-axis: 40 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 30 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 30 m/min, controller manufacturer: Siemens, controller model: Sinumerik 810, total height: 2,800 mm, total length: 4,450 mm, total width: 2,850 mm, table width: 520 mm, table length: 1,200 mm, rotational speed (max.): 10,500 rpm, overall weight: 12,100 kg, spindle speed (max.): 10,500 rpm, spindle motor power: 36,000 W, spindle nose: SK50, number of spindles: 1, number of slots in tool magazine: 40, Equipment: chip conveyor, documentation/manual, We are offering this used Chiron FZ 28 L vertical machining center, year of manufacture 1996. Model: FZ 28 L Serial number: 137-28 Nsdpfeyvg Akox Ahvscp Year of manufacture: 1996 Weight: 12,100 kg Number of driven axes: 3 X-axis: 2800 mm Y-axis: 520 mm Z-axis: 630 mm Table clamping surface: 1200 x 520 mm (two machine tables installed) Spindle speed: 0 - 10,500 rpm Power output: 36 kW Tool holder: SK50 Tool changer for 40 tools Automatic tool changer Feed / Rapid traverse: X 40 m/min - Y/Z 30 m/min Coolant system: available Chip conveyor: available Hydraulic clamping system: available Note: The machine has a technical defect on the Z-axis (further information on request). The machine is being sold in its current condition. Dismantling, collection and loading are to be carried out by the buyer. If you have any questions or need further information, please feel free to send us a message or give us a call.

Year of construction: 2014, operating hours: 5 h, condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, grinding spindle speed: 16,000 rpm, IMT Spindle Type DRESS 72 - 37 - Absolutely like new For truing profile grinding wheels, incl. motor connection cable and spindle bracket. According to the manufacturer, highest precision and smooth running during the truing process of CBN grinding wheels. HF Spindle Dress 72 - 37 Spindle housing: 72 mm Speed up to 16,000 rpm (clockwise/counterclockwise) Power S1 100%: 0.5 kW from 11,500 rpm Power S6 40%: 0.8 kW from 11,500 rpm Motor type: Asynchronous, 3-phase Number of poles: 4-pole Power consumption: Voltage: 230 Volt Current S1 100%: 2.0 Ampere Current S6 40%: 3.5 Ampere Current (max): 6.0 Ampere Frequency up to 533 Hz Spindle ball bearings: Hybrid ceramic Bearing lubrication: Lifetime grease-lubricated Cooling: bracket cooling Purge air + labyrinth: 1 bar, approx. 50 l/min Temperature monitoring: PTC Tool holder: Ø 40 h2 Manual tool clamping Electrical connection (motor): 8-pin plug Axial supply connections Weight: approx. 4.7 kg Motor cable: 8+PE KD /-.10 Spindle bracket 72 complete Aluminum, black anodized Reducing sleeve 80 / 72 Dressing spindle for mounting dressing rolls on CNC grinding machines Profiling in grinding wheel Operating instructions available Spindle was used for trials on the machine. Ncodpfx Ahogl Arrovop Price / details upon request. All technical data subject to error/typos. Sale exclusively to countries of the European Community.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2000, Main Drive Spindle speed range 45000 Spindle motor power 6 kw Ncsdpfx Ahjx D E U Sovjp Movement X-Axis Movement 2450 mm Y-Axis Movement 1400 mm Z-Axis Movement 800 mm This 5-axis GEISS FZ 2000 x 1000 was manufactured in 2000. It features a robust CNC milling machine capability with X-axis travel of 2450 mm, Y-axis of 1400 mm, and Z-axis of 800 mm. The milling spindle supports a maximum speed of 45000 rpm with a power of 6 kW. Consider the opportunity to buy this GEISS FZ 2000 x 1000 CNC milling machine. Contact us for more information about this machine. Application Types Milling

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2007, operating hours: 22,500 h, travel distance X-axis: 450 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 270 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 310 mm, controller manufacturer: SIEMENS, controller model: 840D, spindle speed (max.): 15,000 rpm, number of axes: 3, This 5-axis CHIRON FZ 08K S Magnum SK was manufactured in 2007. It features a Siemens 840D control unit, with impressive travels of 450 mm in the X-axis, 270 mm in the Y-axis, and 310 mm in the Z-axis. The machine includes a 40-position tool changer and a high-pressure coolant system. If you are looking to get high-quality machining capabilities, consider the CHIRON FZ 08K S Magnum SK vertical machining centre we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Overhaul: Factory overhauled and technically updated by Chiron (CMS) in 2017 • Last Spindle Replacement: September 2025 • Last Maintenance: Major annual service (4,000 h) performed in October 2025 Njdpfx Ahjypb Tpjvecp • NC Swivel Head Range: −20° / +115° • Rapid Feed X/Y/Z: 75 m/min • Acceleration X/Y/Z: 1g / 1.5g / 2g • Tool Changer: 40 positions, HSK-A40 • Chip-to-Chip Time: 2.6 s (vertical) • Rotary Table: AWU 160 with D105 mm positioning axis • Operating Hours: Approximately 22,500 h Additional equipment • Clamping: Hainbuch Spanntop D100 collet chuck • Bar Loader: IRCO SiMag 100.1-3000 for round and profile material • High Pressure Coolant: 70 bar with Vario valve • Coolant Filtration: Knoll VRF, 400-liter vacuum rotation filter • Chip Conveyor: Scraper belt, 1,050 mm discharge height • Measurement/Monitoring: Renishaw TS27R 3D touch probe; tool life monitoring; tool breakage control • Collision Monitoring: Brankamp Marposs CMS 100 • Guide Channel Sets: Breuning IRCO sets included (by arrangement) • Collets: Hainbuch collets included (by arrangement) • Tool Holders: Approximately 500 pieces HSK-A40 • Spare Parts: Included for this machine type • Operating Materials: Specific operating fluids/materials included

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2012, travel distance X-axis: 550 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 320 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 360 mm, table load: 500 kg, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, tool weight: 5,000 g, number of axes: 3, This 3-axis CHIRON FZ 12 KW vertical machining center was manufactured in 2012. It features a high-speed spindle with a maximum speed of 12,000 rpm and a rapid traverse speed of up to 60 m/min on the Z-axis. The machine includes a 24-slot automatic tool changer and can handle a table load of up to 500 kg. Ideal for precision machining tasks. Contact us for more information about this machine. Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits • Controlled axes: 6 axes • Reach: 704 mm • Acceleration/deceleration: 0 to 12000 min-1 in 0. 6 seconds • Clamping surface: 820 x 440 mm² • Drilling capacity in st 60: Ø 16 mm • Tapping: m 16 • Milling capacity in st 60: 80 cm³/min • Acceleration: x & y axis 0. 7 g, z axis 1. 0 g Extra Information Movement Axis Movement Range and Speed: J1: 340°/360° (option) at 350°/s J2: 200° at 350°/s J3: 388° at 400°/s J4: 380° at 450°/s J5: 240° at 450°/s J6: 720° at 720°/s Allowable Load Moment: J4 & J5: 11.9 Nm J6: 6.7 Nm Repeatability: +/- 0.02 mm Maximum Speed J1: 195°/s J2: 175°/s J3: 180°/s J4 & J5: 400°/s J6: 600°/s Allowable Load Moment J4 & J5: 7.7 Nm J6: 9.8 Nm Tools Automatic Tool Changer: Ncjdpox Nr I Eefx Ahvep Tool Pockets: 24 Tool Change Time: approx. 0.9 s Chip-to-Chip Time: approx. 2.4 s The workpieces are supplied via an automated feeding system and sequentially loaded into the Chiron machining centres by two Fanuc industrial robots. Once the machining processes are complete, they are removed again. The robots then transfer the components to a transfer system, which transports them to the downstream cleaning system. The integrated washing line ensures reliable cleaning of the components in accordance with the defined cleanliness specifications. After the washing process, two synchronously operating Fanuc robots take over the cleaned parts in the rear section of the system. Depending on the process specifications, these are either palletised automatically or further processed in a downstream step, for example by riveting. The entire system operates fully automatically.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2012, operating hours: 29,801 h, travel distance X-axis: 729 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 401 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 361 mm, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: Series 31i, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, number of axes: 4, This 4-axis CHIRON FZ 15 KWM HS vertical machining center was manufactured in 2012. If you are looking to get high-quality milling capabilities, consider the CHIRON FZ 15 KWM HS machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Machine Benefits Technical Machine Benefits Nedpfx Ahjx D Nmlovocp • Availability: available from 1/7/25 • Operating voltage: 400 v • Control voltage: 230/23 v • Material processed in the machine: aluminum • Cone type : hsk-63 Extra Information Machine still under power