Used Cnc Plano Milling Machine for sale (64,427)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2000, travel distance X-axis: 9,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,500 mm, table width: 1,200 mm, table load: 5,000 kg, table length: 9,500 mm, Bed Milling Machine 5-axis Table size 9500 x 1200 mm. Movement x-Axis 9000 mm. y-Axis 1500 mm. z-Axis 1500 mm. Bwsdpfex Tucmjx Abbjh Max table load 5000 kg/mtr Swiveling of vertical milling head 1°x1º CNC Control Heidenhain TNC 430 CB If you have any questions concerning the machine, please do not hesitate to contact us by phone or e-mail. Feel free to view our other advertisements for a complete overview of our stock.

Year of construction: 2003, condition: ready for operation (used), A CNC large-format machining center Axa including peripheral equipment is available. Travel X/Y/Z: 4000mm/900mm/950mm, working area X/Y: 4000mm/700mm, tool stations: 72, spindle speed: 10000rpm, control: Heidenhain iTNC 530, operating hours: 77956h, spindle hours: 29342h, power-on hours: 80109h. Including chip conveyor, internal cooling, chip spray gun, oil mist extraction, handwheel, probe and tool measurement Blum Laser. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible. Expected to be available September 2026. Bedsyb Scfjpfx Abbewh

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2014, functionality: limited functionality, travel distance X-axis: 3,048 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,032 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 300 mm, feed rate X-axis: 35 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 35 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 15 m/min, spindle speed (min.): 3,000 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 24,000 rpm, spindle motor power: 12,000 W, We are offering this used Buth Graviersysteme PRO 2030 ATC CNC milling machine, year of manufacture 2014. Manufacturer: Buth Graviersysteme GmbH & Co. KG Model: PRO 2030 ATC Bjdpfsyazaqjx Abbswh Serial number: 150622 Year of manufacture: 2014 Condition: used Electrical connection voltage: 380–400 V Electrical connection frequency: 50 Hz Technical specifications: - Working area: 3048 x 2032 x 300 mm (X x Y x Z) - Table: Phenolic vacuum high-pressure table - Feed rate: 35 m/min (X/Y), 15 m/min (Z) - Drives: 850W YASKAWA AC servomotors - Resolution: 0.001 mm, repeatability: 0.01 mm - Data formats: HPGL – 3D / G-code - Spindle: 12 kW HSD, 8-position carousel tool changer - Speed: 3,000 – 24,000 rpm - Tool holder: HSK63 / ER40 / 26 mm - Weight: approx. 4,500 kg - Control: Fagor 8055 plus CNC controller - Connections: 380/415 V / 50 Hz Equipment & accessories: - Robust steel base frame - Precision ball screws on all axes (X axis with dual drive) - High-precision linear guides - Protective covers for drive axes - Extraction hood for chip extraction - Automatic mist cooling (2 containers) - Material sensor - Planing head 80 mm with HSK63 holder - Becker U4.250 SA/K vacuum pump, 3 mbar final pressure - Ulmatec extraction unit IES 2-8-2 / 2.2 MD - Control software / milling software - 8x HSK63 tool holders - ER40 collet chuck set (3–26 mm diameter) Condition & maintenance: The machine is in good used condition and was in regular operation until recently. Important for the future buyer: Currently, the machine is out of service as the bearings and drive belts need to be replaced. The milling machine generally operates, but both axes no longer run precisely parallel – a normal wear issue that can occur with machines of this type after some time. These works should be carried out once the machine is located at the buyer’s site. Transport and installation can be handled by Buth Graviersysteme. If you have any questions or require further information, please feel free to send us a message or give us a call.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, workpiece length (max.): 1,000 mm, workpiece width (max.): 800 mm, workpiece height (max.): 400 mm, spindle speed (min.): 1,000 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 36,000 rpm, Perfect for: Highly efficient 3D milling of small workpieces – precise milling with high output Materials: Plastics, composites such as CFRP/GFRP, model building materials, aluminum Industries: Automotive, aerospace, transportation & logistics, leisure industry, sanitary, boat building, automation _____ Reference number: 1218 Availability: March 2026 Model: 5-axis CNC milling system RT-F 1400 Spindle data: 8 kW / 6.4 Nm; 1,000–36,000 rpm; HSK E 40 Rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 40/40/30 Bwodpfx Abexdwndsbsh Workpiece dimensions X/Y/Z: 1000 x 800 x 400 mm Control: SIEMENS – Sinumerik One with HT 2 Tool changer: 12 tools Tables: 1 rotary table Tool breakage and length control: Renishaw TS 27 R Other features: Chip tray, anti-slip perforated tread plate Year of manufacture: 2026 Condition: new

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, rotational speed (max.): 36,000 rpm, Perfect for: Highly efficient 3D milling of small workpieces – precise machining with high output Bodex S E Nbopfx Abbowh Materials: Plastics, composites such as CFRP/GFRP, model-making materials, aluminum Industries: Automotive, aerospace, transport & logistics, leisure industry, sanitary engineering, boatbuilding, automation _____ Reference number: 1221 Availability: April 2026 Model: 5-axis CNC milling machine G-S-F/B (25-10) Spindle data: 8 kW / 6.4 Nm; 1,000-36,000 rpm; HSK E 40 Rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 80/80/60 Workpiece dimensions X/Y/Z: 2,500 x 1,000 x 600 Control: FANUC Tool changer: 13 tools Tables: 1 rotary table Vacuum system: yes Tool breakage and length control: Renishaw TS 27 R Miscellaneous: on request Year of manufacture: 2026 Condition: new

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, feed length X-axis: 80 mm, feed length Y-axis: 80 mm, feed length Z-axis: 60 mm, Perfect for: Applications in model and mold making, as well as milling of other materials – a versatile powerhouse with a rapid traverse of 80 m/min Materials: Plastics, composites such as CFRP / GFRP, model-making materials, aluminum Industries: Automotive, aerospace, transport & logistics, leisure industry, sanitary equipment, boat building, automation _____ Reference number: 1210 Available from: immediately CNC machine type: 5-axis CNC milling machine G-S-F/UNI (35-15) Spindle data: 13 kW / 10.3 Nm; 12,000-24,000 rpm; HSK F 63 Rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 80/80/60 m/min Workpiece dimensions X/Y/Z: 3500 x 1500 x 700 mm Control: SIEMENS – Sinumerik One with hand terminal HT 2 Tool changer: 10 tools Tables: 1 table Bjdpfx Abex S Eqlsbjwh Vacuum system: yes Tool breakage and length monitoring: Renishaw TS 27 R Other: on request Year of manufacture: 2025 Condition: new

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2004, Ref. -No.: 10604 Manufacturer: UNION Type: TC 110 Year of construction: 2004 Type of control: CNC Control: SINUMERIK 840 D Powerline Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Germany X-Travel: 2000 mm Y-Travel: 1250 mm Z-Travel: 1000 mm W-Axis: 550 mm Table Height: 1050 mm Spindle Diameter: 110 mm Bedpfxsx Sw Nme Abbjwh Number of T-slots: 10 Max. Workpiece Weight: 6000 kg Clamping Area: 1250 mm T - groove width: 22 mm T - slot spacing: 125 mm Tool Taper: ISO 50 Max. Torque: 1639 Nm Feed Speeds X/Y/Z Axis: 6000 mm / min Rapid Traverse X-Axis: 15000 m / min Rapid Travel Y-Axis: 15000 m / min Rapid Traverse Z-Axis: 15000 m / min Feed Capacities X/Y/Z: 16000 x 16000 x 20000 N swivel angle: 360 °

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1998, Ref. -No.: 10583 Manufacturer: MTE Type: BF 4200 Year of construction: 1998 Type of control: CNC Control: Heidenhain TNC 426 Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Germany X-Travel: 4000 mm Y-Travel: 1200 mm Z-Travel: 1500 mm Turning Speeds: 2.500 RPM Rapid Traverse X/Y/Z: 400 m / min Table surface area (LxW): 4200 x 1000 mm Tool changer: 40 Table load max.: 13.000 kg Tool Taper: SK 50 Weight: 20 t Number Of T-Slots: 7 Pcs Bodpfx Abjx Sw Ivsbowh Width of the T-slots: 22 mm Distance between the grooves: 140 mm Further information: - Heidenhain Handrad HR410 - 3D-Scanner, Infrarot - Die Kugelspindel auf Achsen Z und Y laufen eingespannt und aufgelagert auf kombinierte radial/axial Rollager und radial Kugellager mit bzw. 250 N/qm, Steifigkeit. Maschine kann unter Strom besichtigt werden.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2003, Ref. -No.: 10454 Manufacturer: DOOSAN Type: DAEWOO PUMA 300 MSC Year of construction: 2003 Type of control: CNC Control: FANUC 18i-TB Storage location: Halberstadt Bwsdpex Sw E Iefx Abboh Country of origin: South Korea Machine-No.: 0MS19XX Turning Speeds: 4500 RPM Bar passage: 62 mm Turning Length: 595 mm Turret places: 12 Pcs Further information: - 4 axes (X/Z/C/B) - counter spindle - driven tool station - finished part removal system - conveyor belt - chip conveyor - Powercool coolant system - LNS Quickload Servo 3 bar loader - tool holder - collet holder - collets Machines can be inspected under power by appointment.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1981, Ref. -No.: 10447 Manufacturer: SKODA Type: WD 200 Year of construction: 1981 Retrofit: 2010 Type of control: CNC Control: SIEMENS SINUMERIK 840D Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Germany X-Travel: 9000 mm Y-Travel: 4000 mm Z-Travel: 1450 mm W-Axis: 2000 mm Bed width: 2000 mm Bed height: 550 mm Spindle Diameter: 200 mm Quill Stroke: 1600 mm Rotary Table (Lxw): 4000 x 4000 mm Table Load: 80000 kg Clamping Area: 3000 x 3000 mm Turning Speeds: 257 - 2570 RPM Spindle taper: 120 Automatic feeds: 342 mm / rev Spindle Turning Speed - Stepless: 1,5 - 630 RPM Max. Torque On The Boring Spindle: 20000 Nm Rapid Traverse: 16000 m / min Drive Capacity - Spindle Motor: 9,8 - 35,5 kW Total Power Requirement: 75 kW Bore Depth: 2000 mm Vertical headstock movement on the column: 3150 mm transverse movement of the stand on the bed: 4000 mm Lowest position of the spindle axis above the bed: 1100 mm Spindle speed when moving the quill forward: 1,6 - 300 max. rpm Drill feeds (spindle, quill) continuously variable in the range: 1,6 - 1600 mm / min Milling feeds (headstock vertical, column horizontal) infinitely variable: 1,6 - 1600 mm / min Machine length: 11350 mm Machine width: 5450 mm Machine Height: 7350 mm Weight Of The Machine Ca.: 65 t Further information: Threading: 22 metric threads, pitch range 0.5 - 12mm 32 Whitworth threads, pitch range 28 - 1 (gears) Accessories: - console for tools - 1 set of operating tools Bwsdpfxjx Sw Ezj Abboh - ejector and fastening wedges for spindle - lubricating press - 1 set of spare parts for electrical equipment - clamping base plate - setting stick with electrical equipment Machine can be inspected under power by appointment.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2012, Ref. -No.: 10290 Manufacturer: KOLB KLUEPPELBERG Type: Cubimat YC 2000 Year of construction: 2012 Type of control: CNC Control: Siemens Sinumerik 840 D Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Deutschland Machine number: 016453-20.1 X-Travel: 7000 mm Y-Travel: 4000 mm Z-Travel: 4000 mm W-Travel: 2.000 mm Speed work spindle: 4.000 RPM Max. Torque: 2.100 Nm Max. Workpiece Weight: 20 t Table-Size (Lxw): 2.800 x 2.000 mm Table load max.: 18.000 kg Tool Taper: SK 50 Tool places: 360 Distance Between Columns: 3.200 x 4.000 mm Further information: - 4 milling heads available - 1 universal head - Pick Up Head Station Bedpsx Sw A Tofx Abbswh The machine can be viewed under power by arrangement.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2014, Make: HANDTMANN, Model: HBZ Trunnion 80, Year of manufacture: 2014, Serial No. 200793, Control unit by Heidenhain, Type TNC640, Travel distances X/Y/Z: 850 x 850 x 700 mm, A-axis max. -30/+120°, C-axis 360°, Tool holder: HSK 63A, Max. workpiece size: Ø 850 x 630 mm, Max. workpiece weight: 1,200 kg, 40-position tool changer, NC rotary/swivel table, Table diameter: 800 mm, Maximum spindle speed: 30,000 rpm, Chip conveyor by Knoll, Model 600K-3, Band filter system by Knoll, Electrical cabinet by Knoll, Control defective, Travel paths: 850 x 850 x 700 mm Bedpfx Abjx A U Ulobjwh This machine is part of an online auction. Images will be provided later.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2009, Ref. -No.: 10616 Bwjdpfjx R R Hcex Abbeh Manufacturer: DMG Type: DMU 210 P Year of construction: 2009 Type of control: CNC Control: Heidenhain ITNC 530 Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Germany Machine-No.: 257XXXX X-Travel: 1800 mm Y-Travel: 2100 mm Z-Travel: 1250 mm B-Axis: -30 / +180 ° C-Axis: 360 ° Table Load: 8000 kg Clamping Area: 1.700 mm Tool Taper: SK 50 Spindle Speed: 10.000 RPM Max. Torque: 288 Nm Total Power Requirement: 38 kW No. Of Working Stations: 60 Internal cooling: 40 bar Holding torque: 22.700 Nm Further information: - The DMG DMU 210 P 5-axis machining center is suitable for high-precision machining of large, heavy workpieces. The machine can be viewed under power.

Year of construction: 2003, condition: ready for operation (used), Travel X/Y/Z: 600mm/700mm/800mm, resolution: 0.001mm, input resolution: 0.001mm, positioning tolerance: 0.01mm, feed rate: 15m/min, rapid traverse: 40m/min, speed: 18000rpm, power: 31kW, control: Heidenhain MillPlus. Documentation available. On-site inspection is possible. Bwjdpfex U Dwijx Abbeh

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1990, total height: 2,300 mm, total width: 1,800 mm, total length: 2,800 mm, Empty weight: 3.500 kg - Year: 1990 - Documentation available: Yes - CE certificate present: No - Serial number: 16090455 - Drive system: CNC - Power [kW]: 16.0 - Number of axes [pcs]: 3 - X-axis travel [mm]: 850 - Y-axis travel [mm]: 435 - Z-axis travel [mm]: 210 - Table length [mm]: 1570 - Table width [mm]: 500 - Main spindle power [kW]: 3.8 - Options: External cooling - Tools included: Yes - Transport dimensions: 2800mm x 1800mm x 2300mm (l x w x h) - Transport weight [kg]: 3500kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 3 Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Bedox Dicmopfx Abbewh Lukas van Rossum

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 152.00.80.20, Universal machining center, CNC tool milling machine, milling machine, universal milling machine, tool milling machine, drilling and milling machine -function tested Bodpfx Abefbma Njbswh -Clamping table: 800 x 445 mm -Travel: X/Y/Z 500/500/385 mm -Spindle holder: SK40 -quill stroke: 90 mm -Speeds from: 31.5 to 3150 rpm -Coolant device -Dimensions: 1475/1770/H2000 mm -Weight: 1966 kg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1994, Universal machining center, CNC tool milling machine, milling machine, universal milling machine, tool milling machine, drilling and milling machine -Manufacturer: Knuth, CNC tool milling machine type WF 5 NC -Clamping table: 800 x 330 mm Bwodpfxowyivnj Abboh -Travel: X/Y/Z 400/330/440 mm -Spindle holder: SK40 -Quill stroke: 60 mm -Speeds from: 63 to 3150 rpm -Coolant system -Accessories: including extensive accessories see photos -Dimensions: Machine: 1500/1345/H1900 mm / Control cabinet 750/450/H1730 mm -Total weight: 1960 kg

Condition: used, CNC Gantry-Type Boring and Milling Machine ANAYAK Type HVM-3800-P Bed type milling machine, structure similar to a plate-type boring mill with fixed table Machine No.: M-20021203 Year of manufacture: 2002 ("Refurbished 2025") The machine will be completely workshop overhauled in 2025 and can then be inspected in storage at 37235 Hessisch Lichtenau. Travel distances: X: 3,200 mm, Y: 1,200 mm, Z: 1,500 mm Table size: 3,800 x 1,200 mm T-slots: 8 pieces, 22 mm, spacing 130 mm Table load: max. 25 tons (stationary table – virtually unlimited load capacity) Spindle taper: ISO 50 (DIN69871-A) (drawbar: DIN 69872-B) Spindle speed: 60 – 4,000 rpm, stepless Feed rate: up to 10,000 mm/min, stepless Rapid traverse X + Y: 20 m/min Rapid traverse Z: 10 m/min Spindle drive: 22 / 30 kW Electrical connection: 400 Volt, 50 Hz, 50 kVA - Automatic tool changer for 30 tools - Spindle drive with 2 speed ranges - With automatic tool changer and tool magazine - Orthogonal milling head with hydro-mechanical tool clamping Bwjdpfxjxcgtge Abboh - Orthogonal milling head fully automatic swiveling in two 45° planes – B+C axis - HEIDENHAIN iTNC 530 control, with electronic handwheel - Prepared for wireless touch probe (probe and receiver not included) - Additional HF-spindle, 18,000 rpm – for attachment - Free-standing control cabinet - Chip conveyor positioned between the gantry bed and the machine table - 32,078 operating hours recorded - Coolant system - Free-standing hydraulic unit - Operating manual with circuit diagrams Installation area (L x W): approx. 1,000 x 700 cm Installation height: approx. 410 cm Weight (total): approx. 33 tons Good condition

Year of construction: 1990, condition: good (used), HEIDENHAIN TNC-355 Working travels 850x500x450mm Table size 1250x500mm Spindle taper 50 Spindle speeds 35,5-1800 rpm Misc.accessories Bwodofg Ep Djpfx Abbsh MARCELS MASCHINEN CH

Year of construction: 2003, condition: good (used), Sub-spindle, Y-axis, B-axis SIEMENS 840D Powerline Turning diameter max 200mm Bedpfx Abjglf A Hobewh Turning length -635mm Swing Diameter -250mm Spindle speeds main & sub-spindle 20-7000 rpm Turret head 1+2: 12 driven positions B-Axis, upper turret head +135/-45° Misc. accessories MARCELS MASCHINEN CH

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2024, functionality: fully functional, - Swiveling control panel - CNC control SIEMENS 828D - Motor for horizontal and vertical spindle - Feed motors with inverter - Ball screws for X/Y/Z axes - Automatic 2-stage gear box for spindle speeds - 1 long milling mandrel 27 mm - 3 reducing sleeves (MK1, MK2, MK3) - Pneumatic hydraulic clamping system for the vertical spindle - Spindle protection with safety switch - Protective cover in the work area with electrically secured doors - Counterholder for horizontal milling - LED work light - Automatic central lubrication system - Safety handwheels for X/Y/Z axes - Coolant system with chip tray - Guideway covers - Base plates and adjusting screws - Operating tools - Technical documentation - CE version - Colors: * RAL 7024 - Graphite gray * RAL 7035 - Light gray Technical data: Fixed angle table: - Dimensions of the work surface: 1,000 x 500 mm - T-slots: Number / width x distance: 8 pieces / 14 x 63 mm - Max. table load: 250 kg Vertical table: - Dimensions of the work surface: 1,200 x 250 mm - T-slots: Number / width x distance: 3 pieces / 14 x 63 mm Travel paths: - Axis travel paths: automatic/manual - Longitudinal (X): 600 mm - Transverse (Y): 500 mm - Vertical (Z): 400 mm Feed rates: - Control: stepless - Range (X,Y,Z): 0 – 2,000 mm/min. - Rapid traverse - X,Y,Z axes: 5,000 mm/min. - Rapid traverse - Z axis: 4,000 mm/min. Horizontal spindle: - Tool holder: DIN 2080 / ISO 40 Bodjvupa Repfx Abbewh - Speed range (2 levels): 0 – 3,200 rpm. Vertical milling head: - Tool holder: DIN 69871 / / ISO 40 - Speed range (2 levels automatic): 0 – 3,200 rpm - Head swivel: +- 90° - Distance spindle nose/angle table: min/max.: 70 – 470 mm - Distance spindle center to column: min./max.: 160 / 660 mm Motors: Main drive power: 7.00 kW Feed motor power X-Y-Z: 2.85 KW Dimensions and weight Dimensions (W x D x H): 2,850 x 1,950 x 1,900 mm Weight: 1,950 kg

Condition: excellent (used), Brand : SORALUCE Model : TR- 25 Cnc : HEINDENHAIN iTNC 530 Work table : 2860 x 1200 mm X Axis travel : 2500 mm Y Axis travel : 1600 mm Z Axis travel : 1200 mm Spindle speed: 20-3000 rpm Tool taper : ISO 50 Maximum torque : 700 Nrm Spindle motor : 32 kw Feed range : 2- 10 m/min Rapid traverse: 25 m/min Machine weight : 25 tn NC Rotary table (4th axis) YRT F 1000/1250 Bwjdpfx Absx Rv D Hsbeh Maximum load: 3500 kg Overall height : 265 mm Table top thickness: 125 mm Partial accuracy : ±2,5 Equipped with: Electronica handwheel Automatic universal milling head: ±2,5° Cooling through the spindle Coolant device with paper band filter Chip conveyor Working hours : Machine running: 34.320 h Control on: 23.218 h Automatic cycle: 11.987 h

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2000, Controls: HEIDENHAIN TNC 426, connected load: 7.7kW, including Rotator 3R WorkPal, with documentation, without spare parts. Bwjdpfxex Tpyto Abbsh

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2008, 1 used CNC turning/milling center Gildemeister type TWIN 65 RG 2 year 2008 with Siemens 840 D Maximum turning length (travel in the Z axis) 650 mm Maximum turning diameter over bed 250 mm Maximum length of travel in the X-axis 300 mm Maximum feed speed X-axis 30 m/min Maximum feed speed Z axis 30 m/min Maximum main spindle power 35 kW Spindle diameter 65 mm Minimum main spindle speed 20 1/min Maximum main spindle speed 5000 1/min Lathe length 7000 mm Lathe width 4700 mm Lathe height 2500 mm Lathe weight 10 t Bwodpoq T I Izofx Abbeh Machine equipment Y axis Irco loading magazine ILS RBK 1200 mm Workpiece pick-up device Technical data Errors excepted Please note that the machine is sold without chucks, as these remain with the seller!

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2014, travel distance X-axis: 8,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 2,200 mm, 1 as-new CNC travelling column bed milling machine Brand: Soraluce Model: FL 8000 Year of manufacture: 2014 Control: Siemens 840 D Solution Line Technical data: Travel X-Y-Z: 8000 x 1300 x 2200 mm C-axis travel: 360 degrees Table clamping area: 6000 x 2000 mm Tool holder: SK 50 Capto C8 Spindle speed up to: 4000 rpm Main drive: 43 kW Bwodewzx Ntspfx Abbeh Rapid traverse: 35 m/min CNC rotary table: 1600 mm, 250 rpm Weight approx.: 40 t Equipment / Accessories: Tool magazine CNC-controlled universal milling head Chip conveyor Full enclosure Complete coolant system Electronic handwheel Internal coolant supply (IKZ) Indexing clamp Rotary carousel table D=1600 mm, 250 rpm Table area 6000 x 2000 mm Face slide, etc.