Used Weiler Ergodor for sale (180)

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, Weiler Commodor guide and feed spindle lathe with 3-axis digital display K&C NEW Overhauled with acceptance certificate for tolerances of new machines Technical data: >> Machine no. 1824 >> Center height 180 mm >> Center width 1000 mm >> Spindle speeds: from 13 to 2000 rpm >> Spindle passage 56 mm >> Short taper spindle head DIN 55029 size 5 >> Tailstock MK 4 >> Feed rates from 0.026 to 0.888 mm / rev >> Possible threads metric, inch, module and diametric pitch >> Metric thread pitches from 0.35 to 12 mm >> Weight approx. 1500 kg >> Spindle brake can be switched on >> Drive power 2.0/4.0 KW >> Length 2.2 m, height 1.5 m, depth 1 m Accessories and equipment: >> 3-axis digital display from K&C New, 12-month manufacturer's guarantee with operating instructions Functions: Switching mm/inch, coordinate selection ABS/INC, halving of the display value, reference mark, tool programming 200 pcs., cone calculation, radius / diameter, quick zeroing, switching of the counting direction, >> Three-jaw chuck wedge bars as good as new 200mm 1 set of jaws >> Mulifix size B with 2 pcs steel holders NEW >> Bed stop >> Machine feet >> Coolant system Kfodovrcqdepfx Affsa >> LED machine lamp For safety, the machine is equipped with: >> Electronic spindle protection >> Spindle brake >> 2 emergency stops On request: covers for the guide. and feed spindle About the machine: A Weiler Commodor guide and feed spindle lathe is offered in a geometrically overhauled condition. The guides have been reground or re-scraped. With acceptance according to the test report. 2K glossy white paint. The Multifix and chuck accessories are new. For safety: The machine has a brake motor, electronic spindle protection and two emergency stops - an absolutely new lathe. Even at high speeds, the Weiler runs very quietly. This new generation of Weiler lathes is very user-friendly and surfaces can be produced as if they were ground. Take the opportunity to view this machine on site under power and see for yourself its condition.

Condition: good (used), Weiler E70 Hollow Spindle CNC Lathe Year: 2003 Distance Between Centres: 2000mm Spindle Bore: 8" (200mm) Machine with: Kedjwmqkyspfx Affsfa Front & Rear chucks Tailstock Fixed Steady

Condition: reconditioned (used), Year of construction: 1989, Universal lead and spindle lathe Make: WEILER Model: Condor B Kodpfxsg R S Rco Affjfa Year of manufacture: 1989 - overhauled newly painted RAL 7035 light gray Mach. No.: 1401 with guarantee Accessories: - 3-A digital display FAGOR Innova 30i T, new - Chuck protection hood with electrical fuse, new - Quick-change tool holder base body size B - Bed stop - Coolant device - Chip back wall - Operating instructions -used, as seen -

Condition: used, turning diameter over bed / mm Kfedowgi Tmjpfx Affea turning diameter over slide rest / mm turning length / mm

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2014, drilling capacity: 60 mm, spindle mount: MK 5, Manufacturer: WEILER MAS Type: VOM 50 Year of manufacture: 2014 Specifications Metric US Standard Arm length 1250 mm Max. drill Ø (iron) 50 mm Max. Tap diameter Kfsdpfxowpkr Ns Affsa 48 M Quill stroke 350 mm Max. distance spindle - table 1555 mm Min. distance spindle - table 305 mm Speed 800 rpm Tool holder 5 ISO/Bt/Mk Column diameter 400 mm Dimensions (estimated) Length 3200 mm Width 1325 mm Height 2970 mm Weight 6750 kg Please note: The information on this page has been provided by us to the best of our knowledge and, as far as possible, obtained from the manufacturer. The information is given in good faith, but accuracy cannot be guaranteed. Accordingly, no representation or contract conditions will be provided. We recommend that you verify all important details.

Condition: good (used), Perfect high throughput machine for kebab, burger or pet food factory. Kedpfxjwlfxve Affjfa

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Weiler Matador VS-2 guide and feed spindle lathe Technical data: >> Year of manufacture approx. 1970 Machine no. M1012 >> Center height 140 mm >> Center width 500 mm >> Speed: 30 – 3550 rpm >> Spindle passage 36 mm >> Short taper spindle head DIN 55022-5 with bayonet lock >> Tailstock MK 3 >> Feed rates from 0.010 to 1.184 mm / rev >> Possible threads metric, inch, module and diametric pitch >> Metric thread pitches from 0.25 to 15 mm >> Weight approx. 700 kg >> Length 1.4 m, height 1.2 m, depth 0.55 m Accessories and equipment: >> Collet device 32 collets (set is not complete) with holder >> 1 three-jaw chuck 1 set of jaws >> 1 four-jaw chuck 1 set of jaws >> Mulifix size A with 2 steel holders >> Change gears >> Bed stop About the machine: A used Weiler Matador VS-2 is offered in a fully functional condition. Take the opportunity to view this machine on site under power and see for yourself its condition. Kodpfx Aovv Etvoffefa

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1970, Weiler lathe with tailstock Kfjdpfx Afjhtnu Tefea

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2007, Universal lead and feed spindle lathe Make: WEILER Model: Primus VC Year of manufacture: 2007 - overhauled newly painted RAL 7035 light gray Mach. no.: CK17 Center height: 140 mm Center width: 500 mm Spindle bore: 40 mm with guarantee geometric acceptance with test report Accessories: Kjdpfsv D Ip Nex Affjfa - 3-A digital display SIEMENS - Chuck protection hood with electrical protection - Drive motor braked - Quick-change tool holder base body size A - Bed stop - Covered lead and feed spindle - Chip rear wall - Pull-out chip tray - Operating instructions - Used, as seen -

Condition: new, Intern VC plus The new dimension in the field of conventional precision lathes. High-quality, energy-efficient, precise and universally applicable in production, training and further education. It convinces through: future-oriented technology highest accuracy durability user-friendly ergonomics smallest footprint and extensive accessories. The consistent and innovative further development of the practice-proven Praktikant series is the economical and intelligent solution for your daily applications. Technical data: WORKING RANGE Center height 160 mm Swing over bed 320 mm Swing over cross slide 190 mm Center width 650 mm ROTATING SPINDLE spindle head DIN 55027/DIN ISO 702-3 size 5 spindle bore 43 mm Spindle diameter in front bearing 70 mm MAIN DRIVE drive power 60 %/100 % ED - / 8 kW speed range 25 - 5.000 min-1 Number of speeds stepless FEED RANGE Number stepless longitudinal 0.01 - 6 mm/rev plane 0.003 - 2 mm/rev THREAD CUTTING RANGE Metric thread 0.1 - 20 mm REITSTOCK Ksdpfx Afohw N Ntofjfa quill diameter 40 mm quill stroke 85 mm Inner taper DIN 228 MK 3 ACCEPTANCE ACCURACY DIN 8605 Equipped with WEILER WTS 15 VC plus screen display - Large, clear 15" touch screen, rotatable and tiltable, resolution 1366 x 768 - Change of operating screens via swiping movements - Operating functions can be called up via App Manager - Control panels can be freely configured,

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, operating hours: 41,000 h, spindle bore: 165 mm, turning length: 3,000 mm, turning diameter: 830 mm, turning diameter over bed slide: 1,200 mm, quill stroke: 400 mm, quill diameter: 140 mm, torque: 8,000 Nm, Technical Specifications ----- Max. turning length: 3,000 mm Turning diameter: 830 mm Max. turning diameter over bed: 1,200 mm Bed width: 600 mm Kfjdpfjv Nhxzsx Affea Spindle bore: 165 mm Spindle head DIN 55027 Gr 15 Chuck: Forkardt 3KS 800 mm Speed range: 1 - 280 / 4 - 900 rpm Gear ratios: 2 Torque: 8,000 Nm Number of turrets: 1 Sauter 4-station head turret for 140 mm chucks Tailstock Quill diameter: 140 mm Quill stroke: 400 Features ----- Electronic handwheel Forkardt 3KS 800 mm hydraulic power chuck Chip conveyor

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1986, turning diameter over bed:320 mm turning diameter over slide rest:198 mm turning length:650 mm total power requirement:2,2 kW weight of the machine ca.:650 kg dimensions of the machine ca.:1700x1000x1700 mm :3 - Achsen - Digitalanzeige :Ø 40 mm :96 - 2500 U/min :A 2 - 5 :0,007 - 0,63 mm/U Kfodpfx Afoufud Dsfea :metrisch 0,25 - 8 mm,Zoll 80 - 2 Gg/",Diametral - Pitch Gewinde 200 - 5 Dp,Modul 0,2 - 4 :MK 3 3-jaw chuck:160 mm mm :Typ B

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Weiler Primus guide and feed spindle table lathe in excellent condition! Technical specifications: >> Machine no. 2801 >> Center height 120 mm >> Center distance 430 mm >> Speed: 60 - 3000 rpm in 18 gear steps >> Spindle bore 23 mm >> Short-taper spindle head DIN 55027 Kfsdpfjv Tyzcex Affea >> Tailstock MT 2 >> Feed rates from 0.03 to 0.15 mm/rev >> Possible thread sizes: metric, inch, module, and diametrical pitch >> Metric thread pitches from 0.25 to 2.5 mm >> Length 1.2 m, height 1.3 m, depth 0.65 m Accessories and equipment: >> 1 x Röhm 125 mm three-jaw chuck with 4 sets of jaws >> Collet chuck with collets from 2 mm to 12 mm, increments of 1 mm Drawbar >> Multifix size A with 4 tool holders >> Change gears >> Fixed steady rest >> Faceplate >> Spindle cover >> Clamping tool About the machine: Offered is a Weiler Primus table lathe with guide rail and drawbar in very good condition. The machine is fully functional. All slides run very smoothly and evenly. Even at high speeds, the Weiler runs quietly. The Primus comes from a state-owned company where it was used little. This newer generation of Weiler lathes is very user-friendly, and surfaces can be produced with a polished finish. Take advantage of the opportunity to view this machine on-site under power and see for yourself its condition. (The base cabinet is included; the machine is not bolted to the machine.) A digital display is available for an additional charge.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1996, turning diameter over cross slide: 340 mm, turning length: 2,000 mm, turning diameter: 570 mm, spindle bore: 83 mm, Weiler Voest Alpine E50 lathe Kfsdpfxsn Hp T Aj Affea Comes with 3-jaw chuck and 6 multifix tool holders

Condition: reconditioned (used), Year of construction: 1990, Universal lead and feed spindle lathe Make: WEILER Model: Praktikum 160 B Year of manufacture: 1990 - overhauled newly painted RAL 7035 light gray Mach. no.: 90-160-2054 Center height: 160 mm Center width: 650 mm geometric acceptance with test report Accessories: - 3-axis digital display FAGOR Innova 30i T - covered lead and feed spindle - braked drive motor - coolant system - electrically secured chuck protection hood - quick-change tool holder size A - simple bed stop - chip back wall - operating instructions with guarantee used as seen The machine is technically corresponding to the state of the year it was built. Kfodohy Tdyepfx Affsa

Condition: good (used), Weiler lathe Turning diameter bed: 280 mm Turning diameter support: 180 mm Kjdpjl Ayd Rsfx Affsfa Turning length: 800 mm Spindle bore: 24 mm Speed max: 1600 RPM Diameter faceplate: 140 mm Included tools and coolant pumpe Dimensions: 156x70x133 cm LxWxH

Condition: reconditioned (used), functionality: fully functional, spindle bore: 56 mm, center height: 180 mm, center width: 1,000 mm, Dear Sir or Madam, For sale is a Weiler Commodor B lathe with a new 3-axis digital readout from K+C (including a 12-month manufacturer's warranty). The machine is undergoing a comprehensive partial overhaul in our workshop, meaning it is in excellent technical, geometric, and visual condition. You are welcome to visit us for a closer look. Availability: upon request Center height: 180 mm Center distance: 1000 mm Spindle bore: Ø 56 mm Max. spindle speed: 2000 rpm Tailstock taper mount: MK4 Feed range: 0.026 - 0.888 mm/rev Ksdpfx Aewhzivsffefa Possible thread types: Metric, inch, module, diametrical pitch Metric thread pitches: 0.35 - 12 mm Spindle brake: switchable Power consumption: 4 kW Dimensions: approx. 2.2 x 1.5 x 1 m (L x H x W) Weight: approx. 1.8 t Further equipment and accessories: 3-axis digital readout K+C NEW, coolant system, chuck guard, removable chip tray, operating instructions, and much more upon request... Our service promise to you: - We are a certified master craftsman in the field Mechanical Engineering - All machines undergo at least a workshop inspection. - All lubricants and any worn parts are replaced in advance. - Upon request, we can fully or partially overhaul the selected machine. - Upon request, we can repaint the selected machine in your desired color. - Upon request, you can order additional accessories such as tools, etc. directly. - Upon request, we can install additional accessories such as safety devices, etc. - We are happy to take care of shipping and/or delivery.

Condition: good (used), Center distance: 800mm Spindle clearance: 38mm Center height: 165mm Turning diameter over bed: 330mm Turning diameter over slide: 170mm Speed: 24-2800 Dimensions: 1600mm x 600mm x 1250mm Kfodpfxjukrtne Affja Weight: 850 kg

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, Weiler center lathe Model Condor 81 guidance and feed spindle lathe with 3-axis digital display from K&C, NEW Geometrically overhauled with inspection protocol for new machine tolerances Technical data: Ksdpfxswrm Dte Affsfa >> Machine No. 84-121 >> Center height 165 mm >> Center distance 750 mm >> Spindle speeds: from 22 to 2800 rpm >> Spindle bore 40 mm >> Short taper spindle head DIN 55027 size 5 with bayonet lock >> Tailstock MK 3 >> Feeds from 0.015 to 0.46 mm/rev >> Possible threads: metric, imperial, module, and diametral pitch >> Metric thread pitches from 0.18 to 28 mm >> Weight approx. 1100 kg >> Spindle brake switchable >> Length 1.83 m, Height 1.29 m, Depth 0.88 m Equipment and accessories: >> 3-axis digital display from K&C, new, 12 months manufacturer warranty with operating instructions Functions: switching mm/inch, coordinate selection ABS/INC, value halving, reference mark, tool programming for 200 pcs., taper calculation, radius/diameter, quick zeroing, count direction switching >> Collet chuck NEW, collets NEW from 3 to 26mm, increments of 1mm >> 160 mm three-jaw chuck with 2 sets of jaws NEW >> Multifix size B NEW with 3 piece steel holders >> Bed stop >> Electric chuck guard NEW >> Rear wall >> Operating manual >> Coolant device >> Machine feet About the machine: A Weiler Condor 81 guide and feed spindle lathe in a very good, geometrically overhauled condition is being offered. The guides are newly ground or newly scraped. Inspected according to test protocol. The accessories collets and chuck are new. For safety: The machine has a brake motor, electronic spindle guard and two emergency stops, making it an absolutely as-new lathe. Even at high speeds, the Weiler runs very smoothly. This newer generation of Weiler lathes is very user-friendly and allows surfaces as if ground to be produced. Take the opportunity to view this machine on site under power and convince yourself of its condition.

Condition: reconditioned (used), Year of construction: 1974, Universal lead and spindle lathe Make: WEILER Model: Commodor Kfodpfx Ajmgaddeffoa Year of manufacture: 1974 - overhauled newly painted RAL 7035 light gray Mach. no.: 0068 Center height: 180 mm Center width: 1000 mm Spindle bore: 56 mm with guarantee geometric acceptance with test report Accessories: - 3-axis digital display FAGOR Innova 30i-T new - Chuck protection hood with electrical protection - Quick-change tool holder size B - simple bed stop - Coolant device - Operating instructions - used, as seen -

Condition: reconditioned (used), functionality: fully functional, spindle bore: 40 mm, center height: 160 mm, center width: 650 mm, Dear Sir or Madam, For sale is a Weiler Praktikant 160B lathe with a new 3-axis digital readout from K+C (including a 12-month manufacturer's warranty). The machine is undergoing a comprehensive partial overhaul in our workshop, so it is in excellent technical and visual condition. All guides are in working order, the gears run quietly, and the levers shift easily. You are welcome to visit us to see the condition for yourself. Availability: upon request Center height: 160mm Center distance: 650mm Spindle bore: Ø 40mm Tailstock taper mount: MT3 Quill stroke: 85mm Longitudinal slide feed range: 0.020 - 0.630 mm/rev Cross slide feed range: 0.006 - 0.200 mm/rev Possible thread types: Metric, inch, module, diametrical pitch Metric thread pitches: 0.25 - 8mm Spindle brake: switchable Total connected load: 7.5 kvA Voltage: 400V Dimensions: approx. 1.58 x 0.9 x 1.5 m (L x H x W) Weight: approx. 720 kg Kodpfx Afowhzdmofsfa Other equipment and accessories: NEW 3-axis digital readout, coolant system, chuck guard, guide rail & Pulley cover, 2 emergency stops, operating instructions, and much more upon request... Our service promise to you: - We are a certified master mechanical engineering company - All machines are thoroughly checked - All lubricants and any worn parts are replaced in advance - Upon request, we can fully or partially overhaul your selected machine - Upon request, we can repaint your selected machine in your desired color - Upon request, you can order additional accessories such as tools, etc. directly - Upon request, we can install additional accessories such as safety devices, etc. - We are happy to take care of shipping and/or delivery

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1986, functionality: fully functional, Weiler Praktikant 160 B lead and feed screw lathe with 3-axis digital readout K&C NEW Technical data: >> Year of manufacture: 1986, machine number 86-160-348 >> Center height: 160 mm >> Distance between centers: 650 mm >> Spindle speeds: 8 steps; from 96 to 2500 rpm >> Spindle bore: 40 mm >> Short taper spindle head DIN 55027 size 5 with bayonet lock >> Tailstock: MT 3 >> Feeds: 0.02 to 0.63 mm/rev >> Usable threads: metric, inch, module, and diametral pitch >> Metric thread pitches: 0.25 to 8 mm >> Weight: approx. 680 kg >> Spindle brake switchable >> Length 1.6 m, height 1.25 m, depth 0.7 m Accessories and equipment: >> 3-axis digital readout from K&C, new, 12 months manufacturer warranty with operating manual Functions: mm/inch switching, coordinate selection ABS/INC, value halving, reference point, tool programming for 200 tools, taper calculation, radius/diameter display, quick zeroing, direction reversal >> Collet clamping device, collets as new from 1 to 29 mm in 1 mm increments >> 160 mm new three-jaw chuck with 2 sets of jaws >> Multifix size A with 3 tool holders >> Electric chuck guard >> Bed stop >> Rear wall >> Machine leveling feet >> Coolant device About the machine: Kedswthbispfx Affjfa Offered is a Weiler Praktikant 160 B lead and feed screw lathe built to toolroom precision in very good condition. The machine is, of course, fully functional. The Weiler was completely dismantled and newly painted in light grey. All slides move very smoothly and evenly. Even at high speeds, the Weiler runs quietly. This newer generation of Weiler lathes is very user-friendly and can produce surfaces as if ground. Take the opportunity to inspect the machine under power on site and verify its condition for yourself.

Condition: reconditioned (used), functionality: fully functional, center height: 160 mm, center width: 650 mm, rotational speed (max.): 4,000 rpm, Equipment: rotational speed infinitely variable, Dear Sir or Madam, For sale is a Weiler Primus VC / Praktikant VC lathe. This model series is particularly distinguished by its Siemens control panel and completely stepless speed control. As the name suggests, the VC can operate at a constant cutting speed. The machine has undergone a comprehensive partial overhaul in our workshop, so it is in excellent technical and visual condition. All guides are in working order, the gears run quietly, and the levers shift easily. You are welcome to visit us to see the condition for yourself. Availability: upon request Center height: 160 mm Center distance: 650 mm Spindle bore: Ø 40 mm Tailstock taper mount: MT3 Quill stroke: 85 mm Possible thread types: Metric, inch, module, diametrical pitch Metric thread pitches: 0.25 - 8 mm Spindle brake: switchable Voltage: 400 V Dimensions: approx. 1.60 x 1.00 x 1.50 m (L x H x W) Weight: approx. 750 kg Other equipment and accessories: Siemens control panel, coolant system, chuck guard, lead screw and feed screw covers, 2 emergency stops, operating instructions, CE declaration of conformity, and much more upon request... Our service promise to you: - We are a certified master craftsman in the field of mechanical engineering Kjdpfx Afjwhx I Nsfofa - All machines undergo at least a workshop inspection - All lubricants and any worn parts will be replaced in advance. - Upon request, we can fully or partially overhaul the selected machine. - Upon request, we can repaint the selected machine in your desired color. - Upon request, you can order additional accessories such as tools, etc. directly. - Upon request, we can install additional accessories such as safety devices, etc. - We are happy to take care of shipping and/or delivery.

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, Weiler Praktikum 160B precision center lathe 3-axis digital display K&C NEW. Reconditioned with acceptance certificate for tolerances of new machines Technical data: >> Machine no. 87 160 760 >> Center height 160 mm >> Center width 650 mm >> Spindle speeds: from 24 to 2500 rpm >> Spindle passage 40 mm >> Short taper spindle head DIN 55027 size 5 with bayonet lock >> Tailstock MK 3 >> Feed rates from 0.02 to 0.63 mm / rev >> Possible threads metric, inch, module and diametric pitch >> Metric thread pitches from 0.25 to 8 mm >> Weight approx. 680 kg >> Spindle brake can be switched on >> Length 1.6 m, height 1.25 m, depth 0.7 m Accessories and equipment: >> 3-axis digital display from K&C New, 12-month manufacturer's guarantee with operating instructions Functions: Switching mm/inch, coordinate selection ABS/INC, halving the display value, reference mark, tool programming 200 pcs., cone calculation, radius / diameter, quick zeroing, switching the counting direction, >> Collet device New, collets NEW from 3 to 25 mm, 1 mm increasing >> Three-jaw chuck 160 mm New with 2 sets of jaws >> Mulifix size A with 3 steel holders >> Electronic spindle protection Kfjdevrdlcspfx Affea >> Machine lamp LED New >> Machine feet NEW >> Splash guard >> Operating instructions, spare parts plan (PDF) About the machine: Offered is a Weiler Praktikum 160 B guide and feed spindle lathe with toolmaker precision in a completely geometrically overhauled condition. Reconditioned with acceptance certificate for tolerances of a new machine. For safety: Electronic spindle protection of the work spindle, cover of the lead and feed spindle, 2 emergency stops and a brake motor. This new generation of Weiler lathes is very user-friendly and surfaces can be produced as if they were ground. Take the opportunity to view this machine on site under power and see for yourself its condition.

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, Weiler center lathe model Condor B lead and feed spindle lathe with 3-axis digital readout from K&C NEW Geometrically overhauled with acceptance certificate for tolerances of new machines !!! Technical data: >> Machine no. 90-1495 >> Center height 165 mm >> Center width 750 mm >> Spindle speed : from 22 to 2800 rpm >> Spindle clearance 40 mm >> Short taper spindle head DIN 55027 size 5 with bayonet lock >> Tailstock MK 3 >> Feed rates from 0.015 to 0.46 mm /rev >> Possible threads metric, inch, module and diametral pitch >> Metric thread pitches from 0.18 to 28 mm >> Weight approx. 1100 kg >> Spindle brake can be activated >> Length 1.83 m, height 1.29 m, depth 0.88 m Accessories and equipment: >> 3-axis digital readout from K&C New , 12 months manufacturer's warranty with operating instructions Functions : Switching mm/inch , Coordinate selection ABS/INC , Halving of the display value , Reference mark , Tool programming 200 pcs. , Cone calculation , Radius / diameter , Quick zeros , Switching the counting direction , >> Collet chuck device, collets NEW from 3 to 26 mm 1 mm increasing >> Three-jaw chuck 160 mm with 2 sets of jaws NEW >> Mulifix new size A with 2 steel holders new >> Bed stop >> elec. Chuck guard NEW >> Machine lamp LED New >> Rear panel >> Operating instructions >> Coolant device >> Machine feet To the machine : Kfjdpevambcjfx Affsa We are offering a Weiler Condor B lead and feed spindle lathe in a geometrically overhauled condition, absolutely as good as new. The guides are newly ground and scraped. With acceptance according to test protocol. A very nice machine with electronic spindle protection. The accessories collets, chuck, Multifix are new. Spindles, spindle nuts, bearings, belts, wipers have been renewed. Take the opportunity to inspect this machine on site under power and see the condition for yourself.