Used Thread Machining for sale (63,717)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2004, operating hours: 5,238 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 120007, travel distance X-axis: 1,200 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 700 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 750 mm, controller model: Heidenhain TNC530, spindle speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Lsdpfxsxnwxqj Ab Usah Travel X: 1,200 mm Travel Y: 700 mm Travel Z: 750 mm Maximum spindle speed: 8,000 rpm MACHINE DETAILS Control: Heidenhain TNC530 Electrical data Operating voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz Control voltage: 24 V Power: 35 kVA Rated current: 50 A Main fuse: 6.3 A Operating hours Spindle hours: 5,238 h Control on-time: 17,705 h

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2012, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 1,050 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 600 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 600 mm, spindle speed (max.): 8,000 rpm, number of slots in tool magazine: 24, TECHNICAL DETAILS X-axis travel: 1,050 mm Y-axis travel: 600 mm Z-axis travel: 600 mm Laodjxltdkepfx Ab Ujh Spindle speed: 8,000 rpm Tool holder: 24 positions MACHINE DETAILS Machine weight: 7,200 kg

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 2004, functionality: unexamined, travel distance X-axis: 510 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 510 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 460 mm, workpiece diameter (max.): 500 mm, rotational speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, No reserve price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel paths: X-axis: 510 mm Y-axis: 510 mm Z-axis: 460 mm Workpiece dimensions: Maximum diameter: 500 mm Maximum height: 405 mm Table: Number of tables: 1 Table diameter: 500 mm Table width: 400 mm Maximum table load capacity: 300 kg Number of T-slots: 5 T-slot width: 80 mm Reference slot: 50 mm Table height: 800 mm Laodpfjxldrxox Ab Uoh Distance spindle nose – table, max.: 650 mm Distance spindle nose – table, min.: 190 mm Distance spindle nose – table center, max.: 600 mm Distance spindle nose – table center, min.: 140 mm Speeds: Rapid traverse X-axis (max.): 50 m/min Rapid traverse Y-axis (max.): 50 m/min Rapid traverse Z-axis (max.): 50 m/min Feedrate X-axis (max.): 50 m/min Feedrate Y-axis (max.): 50 m/min Feedrate Z-axis (max.): 50 m/min Spindle: Maximum speed: 12,000 rpm Minimum speed: 35 rpm Spindle motor (15 min): 22 kW Spindle motor (continuous): 15.0 kW Maximum tool diameter with adjacent tool: 80 mm Maximum tool diameter without adjacent tool: 125 mm Maximum tool length: 300 mm Tool change time (C/C): 4.5 s MACHINE DETAILS Electrical supply: Power (30 min): 66.6 kVA Power (continuous): 49.9 kVA Compressed air supply: Pressure: 500 kPa Flow rate: 200 l/min Cooling system: Total tank volume: 300 l Dimensions & Weight: Dimensions (L x W x H): 3,015 x 2,805 x 2,964 mm Weight: 7,600 kg EQUIPMENT Operator door lock with switch Full enclosure Top cover Transformer for Europe (CE) Ball screw cooling (X, Y, Z) Automatic tool measurement & Mazatrol PC-FUSION-CNC 640M 5X control Additional variables (600) Mazak Tornado thread cutting-drilling Mazatrol Mazak Tornado thread cutting-drilling (EIA) Intersection calculation between 2 lines Zero offset Reverse execution of commands G37 automatic tool length measurement Sequence comparison function RS-232C interface Mazacc 2D high-speed software Additional coordinate system (G54.1) Thread cutting function Machining navigation – forecast Machining navigation – control Machining navigation – results PCMCIA interface (2 slots) IC memory card interface Complete coolant system Lighting Manuals Note: The machine has not been used for 2 years, but was running smoothly up to that point. Pallets are included in the scope of sale and delivery. Tools and tool holders are not included in the scope of sale and delivery.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2020, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 435.046, workpiece weight (max.): 75 kg, workpiece height (max.): 60 mm, rotational speed (max.): 20,000 rpm, workpiece length (max.): 5,600 mm, working width: 1,300 mm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Working width: 1,300 mm Workpiece dimensions Workpiece width (X): 60 - 1,300 mm Workpiece thickness (Z): 6 - 60 mm Workpiece length (Y): 263 - 5,600 mm Workpiece weight: max. 75 kg Drilling spindles: 13 vertical, 6 horizontal in Y, 2 horizontal in X Grooving unit: 1 in Y Milling unit motor power: 5.5 kW (S1) Speed range: 1,000–20,000 rpm Tool holder: HSK63F Maximum cutter length: 130 mm MACHINE DETAILS Electrical connection: 400 V, 3 phases, 50 Hz, 12 kVA, 17.5 A Air supply: 7 bar EQUIPMENT Counter-pressure device for 1,300 mm working width Foldable roller table 765 mm for front and rear of the machine, width 500 mm Auxiliary stop 600 mm with integrated rollers for roller tables Ljdpexnyn Isfx Ab Ujah Additional safety device with lamella curtain Extraction distributor: ∅ 160 mm / ∅ 80-80-80 mm, spacing 196 mm Documentation

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2000, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 3,200 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 720 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 600 mm, controller model: Heidenhain TNC, workpiece weight (max.): 3,000 kg, TECHNICAL DETAILS X travel: 3,200 mm Y travel: 720 mm Z travel: 600 mm Table height: 900 mm Number of T-slots: 5 T-slot width: 18 mm T-slot spacing: 125 mm Distance spindle nose to table: 140 - 740 mm Max. workpiece weight: 3,000 kg Clamping surface: 3,900 x 650 mm Tool holder: DIN 69871 AD 40 Spindle speed: 30 - 8,000 rpm Max. torque: 102 x 240 Nm Number of tools: 30 pcs Max. tool length: 330 mm Tool clamping: disc spring Max. milling capacity: 400 x 600 Max. thread size: M20 x M30 mm Boring diameter: 28 x 44 mm Feed rates X/Y/Z axis: 30,000 mm/min Rapid traverse X/Y/Z: 30 / 30 / 30 mm/min Max. feed force: 9,000 / 9,000 / 9,000 kN Ledpfx Abexn Nd Se Uoah MACHINE DETAILS Control: Heidenhain TNC Space requirement (L x W x H): 7,200 x 3,400 x 3,100 mm Coolant: 250 bar Total power requirement: 50 kW EQUIPMENT Special accessory Trautomatic (L = 7.50 m) Special accessory full enclosure for work area (H = 3.60 m)

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2007, operating hours: 11,261 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: M-077.084.07, empty load weight: 4,800 kg, Equipment: chip conveyor, MACHINE DETAILS Weight: 4,800 kg Operating Hours Spindle hours: 11,261 h Control system on hours: 125,668 h EQUIPMENT Conveyor belt (FAMUP 405-1498-1, 352 kg) Lasdexpvwzopfx Ab Ueh

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 121162, travel distance X-axis: 550 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 400 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 415 mm, table load: 200 kg, spindle speed (max.): 12,000 rpm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel paths Laodpsxnwvpefx Ab Ujh X-axis: 550 mm Y-axis: 400 mm Z-axis: 415 mm Work table Work table size: 550 x 400 mm Table load capacity: 200 kg Spindle Max. spindle speed: 12,000 rpm MACHINE DETAILS Number of axes: 5 Weight: 4,600 kg Electrical data Power supply: 220 V, 3 phase Frequency: 50/60 Hz Rated power: 16.0 kVA Max. power: 32.0 kVA EQUIPMENT 2 pallets

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2006, operating hours: 2,988 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 14106232, travel distance X-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 255 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 160 mm, table load: 250 kg, spindle speed (max.): 9,000 rpm, Machining center with extensive accessories and only 2,988 spindle hours! TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel X-axis: 500 mm Laodexnz Tfjpfx Ab Uoh Travel Y-axis: 255 mm Travel Z-axis (manual): 160 mm Travel Z-axis (controlled): 147 mm Travel W-axis: 500 mm Table width: 320 mm Table length: 885 mm Table load capacity: 250 kg Spindle speed (min.): 50 rpm Spindle speed (max.): 9,000 rpm MACHINE DETAILS Control system: HEIDENHAIN iTNC 530 Spindle motor power: 9,900 W Spindle power (S6, 40%): 9.9 kW Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 1,900 x 1,900 x 2,300 mm Machine weight: 2,450 kg Spindle hours: 2,988 h EQUIPMENT Documentation/manual Infinitely variable spindle speed Nameplate available 60 pcs. SF-32 tools 97 pcs. collets Renishaw probe: MP15 Handwheel (manual control unit) Complete machine documentation including EC Declaration of Conformity

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1999, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 1500050123, rotational speed (max.): 18,000 rpm, working length: 12,000 mm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS Max. speed: 18,000 rpm Machining length: 12 m Pneumatic collets: 20 pcs MACHINE DETAILS Electrical data Voltage: 400 V Phases: 3 ~ Frequency: 50 Hz Current draw: 76 A Operating pressure: approx. 8 bar EQUIPMENT Lajdpoxnz Ivefx Ab Ujh Automatic tool changer Angle head

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: fully functional, DECKEL MAHO DMU60mB - Full 5 axis Simultaneous Year 2011 X730 Y560 Z560mm Heidenhain iTNC 530 Spindle 18,000rpm Taper BT-40 ATC 24 magazine NC Rotary Table (C axis) Integrated on Rigid Table (0.001mm x 360 degree) NC Swivel B axis incl. Hydraulic Clamping (-120 degree / +30 degree) Spray Pistol 2bar Electronic Handwheel - iTNC530 Application tuning cycle 3D quick set system Chip Conveyor Laedpfxexp Htas Ab Ush

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2005, CNC Machining Center HARDINGE BRIDGEPORT XP610 (Year 2005) Condition: Good, technically sound. Manufacturer: Hardinge / Bridgeport (USA / UK) Lsdpfx Absxqp Ens Ueah Model: XP610 Year of manufacture: 2005 A compact and reliable CNC vertical machining center designed for precise milling, drilling, and tapping of metal parts. The Bridgeport XP series is known for its high accuracy, robust construction, and reliable control system, making it an excellent solution for manufacturing processes where precision and repeatability are crucial. Main technical specifications: (according to Hardinge Bridgeport XP610 model specifications) Control system: Heidenhain iTNC 530 Travel (X / Y / Z): 610 × 510 × 510 mm Table size: 800 × 520 mm Max. table load: 500 kg Spindle speed: up to 10,000 rpm Spindle taper: BT40 Tool changer: 20 positions (automatic) Spindle motor: 11–15 kW Cooling: integrated coolant system Power supply: 400 V / 50 Hz Machine weight: approx. 6,000 kg Application: The Hardinge Bridgeport XP610 is designed for precision machining of components and parts: - Metal, aluminum, copper, and brass workpieces - Tool and die manufacturing - Production of mechanical components and industrial parts Suitable for both small batch and series production where a precise, stable, and repeatable result is required. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2017, Operating hours: 51,800 h Program run hours: 15,100 h Laedsxqp Ivspfx Ab Ueh Technical data: Max. speed: 12,000 rpm Power: 77 kVA Weight, approx.: 18,100 kg

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2008, operating hours: 15,289 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 750 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 800 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 850 mm, spindle speed (max.): 15,000 rpm, number of slots in tool magazine: 121, TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel Paths X-axis travel: 750 mm Y-axis travel: 800 mm Z-axis travel: 850 mm Work Table (axis operated by AC servo motor) Pallet size: 550 x 550 mm Smallest indexing increment: 0.001 degrees Spindle Tool taper: #50 Drive power: 30/22 kW Spindle speed: 15,000 rpm Tool Magazine Tool stations: 121 tools Magazine type: Chain magazine Specification: BT-50 MACHINE DETAILS Control: FANUC 31i Installation dimensions (L × W × H): approx. 2,780 × 1,500 × 2,300 mm Operating Hours Running time: 15,289 h Control On-Time: 106,856 h EQUIPMENT Coolant system Renishaw infrared tool probe OMP 60 BT 50 Laodpoxnwq Hsfx Ab Ueh

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2017, travel distance X-axis: 435 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 465 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 560 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 80 kg, total height: 2,755 mm, total length: 3,360 mm, total width: 3,870 mm, overall weight: 8,500 kg, spindle nose: MAS BBT 40, 5-axis Vertical Machining Centre CNC Control Matsuura G-Tech 31 i Table size ø 130 mm Table load 80 kg Number of pallets 10 max workpiece dia x height 330 x 300 mm Movement X-axis 435 mm Movement Y-axis 465 mm Movement Z-axis 560 mm C-axis (table rotation) 360° A-axis (table tilt) -125/+10° Spindle speed 50 - 15.000 R/min Spindle taper MAS BBT 40 Spindle motor 7,5/5,5 kW Laedexqpp Hspfx Ab Uoh Magazin capacity 90 If you have any questions concerning the machine, please do not hesitate to contact us by phone or e-mail. Feel free to view our other advertisements for a complete overview of our stock.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2015, Traverses X Y Z: 1524 x 596 x 584mm, Table 1930 x 356mm, Spindle speed 5000rpm, Motor 5.75kW, ProtoTRAK SMX 3 axis control, Ljdpoxqn Injfx Ab Ueah ISO40 Spindle taper, 127mm Quill Travel, Interlocked guards, Power Drawbar, low Volt light.

Condition: good (used), Code: 0132 Brand: BIESSE Model: SKIPPER 100 - CE Standard CNC working center for furniture, kitchens, custom furniture, panels and various - CE Standard - Year 2006 Technical data: 3-axis (x-y-z) CNC working center - swan neck machine Movable panel, fixed working head - panel horizontally Integral protection of the working head and with emergency front carpets Numerical control with biesseworks software Infeed table (with motorized belts) left N. 2 panel fixing clamps (for their introduction into the working area) Outfeed table (with motorized belts) right Useful (maximum) working area (x - y - z) mm 3000 x 1000 x 60 Dimensions (minimum) workpieces that can be machined (x - y - z) mm 90 x 70 x 8 Dimensions (maximum) workpieces that can be machined (x - y - z) mm 3000 x 1000 x 60 (for panels longer than mm 2000, the minimum thickness becomes mm 13) Total installed power (kw) 20 (approx.) Lower working units: N. 1 vertical electro spindle hsk d-50 (power Hp 4,8) with inverter N. 1 circular saw unit (on x-axis) dia. mm 150 (power Hp 2,3) with inverter N. 29 vertical drilling spindles N. 10 horizontal drilling spindles (8 in x-axis + 2 in y-axis) Upper working units: N. 1 vertical electro spindle hsk d-50(power Hp 4,8) with inverter N. 1 circular saw unit (on x-axis) dia. mm 150 (power Hp 2,3) with inverter N. 29 vertical drilling spindles N. 10 horizontal drilling spindles (8 in x-axis + 2 in y-axis) Laodjxqntdopfx Ab Uoh Transfer for panel loading and unloading: structure made of aluminum profiles, belt-driven table for panel translation/lifting bar BiesseWorks machining programming system Compressed air 7/8 bar Total power Kw 20 Overall dimensions - (see attachment) Machine weight kg 2700

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2005, functionality: fully functional, Manufacturer: Hardinge / Bridgeport (USA / UK) Model: XP1000 Year of Manufacture: 2005 Reliable and efficient CNC vertical machining center designed for milling, drilling, and tapping a wide range of metal components. The Bridgeport XP series is renowned for its robust construction, high precision, and fast processing capabilities, making it ideal for both job shop and series production. Lasdpfx Absxqpruj Ush Main technical specifications: (based on Hardinge Bridgeport XP1000 specification) Control: Heidenhain iTNC 530 Travel: X = 1020 mm / Y = 510 mm / Z = 635 mm Table size: 1200 × 520 mm Max. table load: 700 kg Spindle speed: up to 10,000 rpm Spindle taper: BT40 Tool changer: 20 positions (automatic) Spindle motor: 15 kW Machine weight: approx. 7,000 kg Power supply: 400 V / 50 Hz Cooling system: integrated Application: The Hardinge Bridgeport XP1000 is designed for precision metalworking—milling, drilling, tapping, and contour machining. Ideally suited for: - Tool, mold, and component manufacturing - Automotive, equipment, and industrial sectors - Situations requiring accuracy, reliability, and consistent performance If you have any further questions, we will be happy to assist you.

Year of construction: 2013, condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, Model: Phantomatic T3 Star Condition: Used Availability: Ready for immediate delivery Code: BM22299 Lsdpfx Aoxqmuaob Usah

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 40543, travel distance X-axis: 425 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 425 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 400 mm, spindle speed (max.): 10,000 rpm, number of slots in tool magazine: 100, TECHNICAL DETAILS X-axis: 425 mm Y-axis: 425 mm Z-axis: 400 mm Pallet size: 300 x 300 mm Feed Rates Rapid traverse: 36,000 mm/min Laodpfx Abexnwkge Uoh Cutting feed rate: 0–10,000 mm/min Tool Magazine Capacity: 100 ATC Spindle speed: 10,000 rpm Tool diameter: 95 mm Maximum tool length: 350 mm Maximum tool weight: 10 kg Max. tool weight (with tool holder): 10 kg Tool change time: 1.7 s Chip-to-chip time: min. 7 s Control: Fanuc 15M Pallet indexing: Full 4th axis MACHINE DETAILS Installation dimensions: approx. 3,690 x 4,614 x 2,475 mm Transport dimensions of the machine: 2.4 x 3.80 x 2.8 m Connected load: 20 kVA Phases: 3 Frequency: 50/60 Hz EQUIPMENT - Chip conveyor - Through-spindle coolant Note: The robot is equipped with 40 pallets. Spare pallets are also available.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2006, operating hours: 14,300 h, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 414-46, Year 2006 with Fanuc Series 18i-MB5 Country of manufacture: CE - Germany Net machine weight: 3,400 kg Dimensions: 185x259x250 cm TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS Travel X / Y / Z: 450 / 270 / 310 mm Acceleration X / Y / Z: 0.7 / 0.7 / 1.0 g Rapid traverse X / Y / Z: 40 / 40 / 60 m/min Spindle speed max.: 15,000 rpm Tool interface: HSK A 40 Milling capacity in St 60: max 60 cm3/min Drilling capacity in St 60: max Ø 16 mm Threading: up to M12 Tool magazine / positions: 24 – special version with 40 on this machine Tool change time: approx. 0.8 sec Chip-to-chip time: approx. 2.2 sec 5-axis version NC rotary tilting table: +/- 100° Rotary plate diameter: 100 mm Grid drill pattern: M6 x 50 mm 4th axis speed: 40 rpm 5th axis speed: 60 rpm Direct measuring system for 4th and 5th axes: +/-20’’ / +/-20’’ Distance spindle nose – table surface: 170 – 450 mm Maximum workpiece weight: 6 kg Ledpfx Aoxqmwbjb Ujah Technical information is provided without engagement and subject to errors or omissions.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2016, Technical details: Lodsxqfzlopfx Ab Usah x-travel: 635 mm y-travel: 535 mm z-travel: 460 mm rotary table:: 650 mm spindle turning speed range: 12.000 U/min drive capacity - spindle motor: 10/14 kW feed speeds infinitely variable: 1 - 30.000 mm/min rapid traverse: 45 m/min Tool changer: 60- fach spindle taper ISO: SK 40 chip conveyor: ja weight of the machine ca.: 8,5 t total power requirement: 50 kVA dimensions of the machine ca.: 2.500 x 2.210 x 2.430 m 5-axis simultaneously machining center, first production day ch 2017 HEIDENHAIN iTNC 530 Internal coolant system 70 bar incl. MAHLE filtering system flush gun water flush gun air BLUM Laser measuring ATLM NT A3 BLUM Infrared measuring TC 62 Chip conveyor Ethernet port working hours mainswich ON ca. 16.100 h working hours spindle ON ca. 6.200 h *

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2009, functionality: fully functional, 5-Axis Universal CNC Milling Machine from Deckel Maho DMG Manufacturer: Deckel Maho DMG Type: Ultrasonic 70-5 Sauer Control Unit: Siemens 840D PowerLine Lsdpfx Abjwmgrte Uoah Including handwheel Year of construction: 10/2008 5-Axis Simultaneous Machining Machine with Inclined Table – the pinnacle of milling! Travels: X=750 Y=590 Z=510 mm Tool magazine: 32 tool positions Renishaw touch probe Spindle rotation speed: 18,000 rpm Tool holder: HSK 63-A Weight: approx. 12,000 kg Coolant tank with 300 liters, 30 bar, including coolant cooler and a centrifuge Complete original documentation is available. Spindle operating hours approx.: 15,500 h New ball screws in the X-axis and Y-axis All service reports from DMG Very well-maintained condition Accessory tools upon request Inspection under power can be arranged at short notice. We are happy to answer any further questions you may have. Price, ex-stock, plus VAT. Condition: good - ready for demonstration Delivery: ex-stock - as seen Payment: net - upon receipt of invoice Subject to prior sale, errors excepted. We welcome your order. Additional machines and systems are available from stock – please inquire. We look forward to hearing from you.

Condition: repair required (used), Year of construction: 1999, functionality: limited functionality, Type: Thread rolling machine Manufacturer: Thommen – Made in Switzerland Laodpfxewwwgvo Ab Ush Model: PR17-CNC / AC Year of manufacture: 1999 BOSCH control unit - newly arrived - Comparable to Profiroll

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2007, Cover Maho DMG DMU 70eVolution 5Axis simultaneous Machining center CNC Manufacturer: DMG Deckel Maho Type [ type]: DMU 70eVolution Control unit: Heidenhain iTNC 530 Incl. handwheel/handwheel Year of construction: 12/2006 - erneuert/renewed Spindle - IKZ integrated cooling system for water 40bar and air (both possible-both possible) Travel X/Y/Z 750/600/520 mm B-axis 0 to 180° degrees C-axis n x +-360° degrees Table load up to 350 kg Spindle speed range 20 to 18,000 1/min. Tool holder SK 40 DIN 69871 Weight [weight]: 10,000kg Complete documentation is available. Ledpfx Abjvcnd Ro Ujah Inspection under power can be arranged at short notice. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. Condition: good - ready for demonstration Delivery: ex warehouse - as inspected Payment: strictly net - after receipt of invoice Subject to prior sale, errors excepted.

Condition: repair required (used), Year of construction: 2004, functionality: limited functionality, Type: Thread rolling machine – Gewinderollmaschine Manufacturer: Thommen – Made in Switzerland Lasdpfxowwwcks Ab Uoh Model: RT 70 RCA Year of manufacture: 2004 Bosch control unit Comparable to Profiroll - Newly arrived -