Used Biesse Rover 20 for sale (304)

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1997, 3-AXIS MACHINE FOR DRILLING AND MILLING OF CABINET FURNITURE PARTS, WITH AUTOMATIC TOOL CHANGER FOR MILLING TOOLS Working area: 2,893 x 950 mm Maximum workpiece height: 65 mm Number of workpiece supports: 6 Number of vacuum cups per support: 2 Gedpfjy Iaihjx Anmebr 1 milling motor, 6.8 kW Clearance height between tool holder surface (motor) and top edge of vacuum cup: approx. 250 mm 2 tool changers: 3-position traveling and 4-position lateral Grooving saw fixed in X axis Number of vertical drilling spindles: 10 Number of horizontal drilling spindles: X 2 + 2, Y 1+1 Vacuum pump 100 cbm/h Controller: NC 410 Safety tread mat in front of the machine

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1997, functionality: fully functional, CNC machining center Biesse Rover 20 Year of construction 1997 Manufacturer Biesse Italy S/N 64851 Working area 2.893 x 950 mm 6 traverses with 12 vacuum cups Milling spindle with ISO 30 tool holder 3.6 kW, drilling unit: 10 vertical drills 6 horizontal drills Grooving saw, 6-fold tool changer. NC410 control unit Color screen Total power consumption 10 Kw 400 V , 50 Hz with safety fence ( not on the pictures ) 3 step mats Gbodpfotpuu Dex Anmor with Becker vacuum pump, 3,0 Kw CE marked 1900 kg

Condition: used, BIESSE Rover 24 S CNC Machining Center Manufacturer: BIESSE Model: Rover 24 S Year: 2001 Serial No.: 16171 Power supply: 230 V Power: 20 kW Rated current: 59 A Frequency: 50 Hz Air supply: 6.5–7.5 bar Required air flow: 30 m/s Weight: 3,450 kg Gbjdpfx Anezrv Hbemjr The machine requires service and maintenance

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2015, For sale: 4 units of CNC ROVER BIESSE 2231. Years of manufacture: 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016. In very good condition. Gbedpfx Aex Tbk Rsnmjr

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 2000, functionality: unexamined, travel distance X-axis: 5,900 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,560 mm, feed rate X-axis: 80 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 60 m/min, rotational speed (max.): 20,000 rpm, No reserve price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS X-axis working area: 5,900 mm Y-axis working area: 1,560 mm X-axis travel speed: 80 m/min Y-axis travel speed: 60 m/min Z-axis travel speed: 25 m/min Drilling spindles Vertical drilling spindles: 20 Horizontal drilling spindles in X-direction: 6 Horizontal drilling spindles in Y-direction: 2 Total number of vertical and horizontal spindles: 28 Milling spindles Number of controlled axes: 4 Motor power: 10 kW Spindle speed: 20,000 rpm Tool changer Number of positions: 10 Tool: head-mounted MACHINE DETAILS Gbedpfx Asyxm Swsnmjr Total installed power: 24 kW Control system: WINDOWS Machine programming software: WRT EQUIPMENT Work table with suction cups Number of suction bar rows: 10 Suction cups for securing the workpiece Vacuum pump The machine is sold and delivered in its actual and legal condition ('as seen and approved') on the basis of photographic documentation and descriptive technical/commercial documents. The buyer is entitled to inspect the item before collection and is responsible for installation, securing and use of the machine at the final destination. External reference: 8173

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2013, power: 17.1 kW (23.25 HP), number of axes: 4, working width: 1,320 mm, milling spindle speed (max.): 24,000 rpm, working length: 2,500 mm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Working area, X-axis: 2,500 mm Working area, Y-axis: 1,320 mm Travel, Y-axis: 1,900 mm Max. panel thickness: 170 mm Work table: Cantilever and rail table Number of controlled axes: 4 Gbjdpfx Aezmtlkonmjr Travel speed, X-axis: 80 m/min Travel speed, Y-axis: 80 m/min Travel speed, Z-axis: 20 m/min Drilling unit Number of drilling units: 1 Position of drilling unit: top Vertical drilling spindles: 10 Horizontal drilling spindles, X-direction: 4 Horizontal drilling spindles, Y-direction: 2 Total number of drilling spindles: 16 Milling spindle Number of milling spindles: 1 Position of milling spindle: top Controlled axes: 4 Automatic tool changer: yes Motor power: 13 kW Speed: 24,000 rpm Grooving unit Number of grooving units: 1 Position of grooving unit: top Design: fixed, for grooving in the X-direction Max. tool diameter: 120 mm Motor power: 1.7 kW Speed: 7,500 rpm Number of tool magazines: 2 Tool magazine, rear: 12 slots Tool magazine, side: 10 slots Total number of tool change slots: 22 MACHINE DETAILS Machine programming software: BiesseWorks Number of vacuum pumps: 1 Suction capacity per pump: 90 m³/h Total connected load: 17.1 kW EQUIPMENT CE marking Protective structure for machining units with safety sensors Safety system: front safety mats 4 consoles with suction cups for workpiece clamping 1 drilling unit, top 1 milling spindle, top 1 fixed grooving unit, top, for grooves in the X-direction 1 rear tool magazine with 12 slots 1 side tool magazine with 10 slots 1 vacuum pump Front safety mats The machine is sold and delivered in its actual and legal condition ("as is, where is") based on photographic documentation and technical/commercial documents with a descriptive character. The buyer has the right to inspect the goods before collection and assumes responsibility for the installation, securing, and use of the machine at the destination. External reference: 8359

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008272, Position 1: 5 Axis CNC Routers BIESSE + KUKA-ROVER A + KR210 R3100 Position 2: Robot BIESSE + KUKA-ROVER A + KR210 R3100 Gsdex A Tfvjpfx Anmobr

Condition: repair required (used), Year of construction: 2002, functionality: limited functionality, Hello, For sale: Rover 22 CNC milling machine. Needs repair. It does not properly load and unload tools from the tool magazine. It has been operating with only one tool for the past period. Gbjdezhl Iaspfx Anmjr The price listed in the advertisement is the net price, to which VAT must be added. The machine can be viewed in Starachowice, at 13 Kwiatkowskiego Street. Contact by phone between 7:00 AM and 3:00 PM.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2009, Used CNC machine Model: BIESSE Rover A3.30 Year of manufacture: 2009 Good condition, inspection possible at our location in the Netherlands. Availability: approximately end of October 2026 4-axis CNC machine with traversing table Drilling head BiesseWorks software Working area: 3100 x 1250 mm Gjdpfx Ansztyzxsmebr Sold without tools.

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008694, X axis working area: 4320 mm Y axis working area: 1287 mm Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 11 KW Gedpfx Aozqz Nxjnmjbr Number of controlled axes: 5 axes Total number of drilling spindles: 16 Total number of tool changer positions: 31

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, Equipment: CE marking, Biesse Rover ROVER 24 FT CNC machining centre Description Gbodpfozqtztjx Anmer The work surface consists of a grid table consisting of two phenol tables with a size of 1540 x 1250 mm that can be linked. The grid table has a grid of 30 mm and vacuum openings of 9 mm in a grid of 150 mm in the X and Y-richting. The grid table is equipped with 6 pneumatic zero point cams at the rear and 1 on the left and right sides. • The working range of the machine is 3100 x 1300 x 155 mm. (Z-stroke 250 mm ) • The speed on the X-axis is programmable between 0 and 100 m/min. • The speed on the Y-axis is programmable between 0 and 100 m/min. • The speed on the Z axis is programmable between 0 and 15 m/min. • The three axes are driven by brushless digital DC servo motors. CNC numerical control type NC-500 Milling motor with automatic change system with ISO30. The power of this milling motor is 10.5 hp at 24,000 rpm 10-position tool changer that moves with the unit Drilling unit with fourteen independent drill spindles Groove saw Static frequency converter Centralized pneumatic system Centralized lubrication system Vacuum pump with a capacity of 250 m3/hour Two push-button control panels Working pressure for air 6 kg/cm2. Voltage 380 Volt, 50 Hz. Safety mats on the front. CE (Despite our great care all changes, mistakes in technical data, prices and all information is subject to (typing) errors. No guarantee on printed data! Availability subject to prior sales). (Trotz größter Sorgfalt bleiben Änderungen, Irrtümer bei technischen Daten, Preisen und allen Angaben (Tipp-)Fehler vorbehalten. Keine Gewähr auf gedruckte Daten! Verfügbarkeit vorbehaltlich Zwischenverkauf). Prices excl. advertisement cost MachineSeeker / Preise exkl. Inserierungskosten MaschinenSucher Best woodworkingmachines from the Netherlands Holland Die besten holzbearbeitungsmaschinen aus die Niederlande De beste gebruikte machines uit Nederland

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, number of slots in tool magazine: 8, Equipment: CE marking, Biesse Rover ROVER A 3.40 FT K2 CNC machining centre Description Working fields: X = 3685 mm; Y = 1290 mm; Z = 160 mm The composition includes: Automatic lubrication system FT Work Table 4 front stops + 4 back stops equipped with pneumatic system and sensors. 4 side stops equipped with pneumatic system and sensors. Vacuum tank Vacuum system for 2 300 m3/h pumps 300 m3/h rotary claw vacuum pump 12 kW (16.1 HP) Electrospindle with ISO 30 adaptor, air cooled Blowing unit Flange for the assembly of aggregates on the electrospindle Prearrangement for operating device with 360° interpolation and gear transmission. Boring head BH 21 L Revolving tool changer with 18 places Prearrangement for the assembly of the automatic unloading device for nested-based machined panels Controls on remote keyboard Numerical Control XP600 User-friendly interface BIESSEWORKS - Advanced programming system BIESSE NEST Module Gbjdpjzqdqljfx Anmer Air conditioner for electric cabinet Inverter Safety devices with 2 mats and low fencing CE (Despite our great care all changes, mistakes in technical data, prices and all information is subject to (typing) errors. No guarantee on printed data! Availability subject to prior sales). (Trotz größter Sorgfalt bleiben Änderungen, Irrtümer bei technischen Daten, Preisen und allen Angaben (Tipp-)Fehler vorbehalten. Keine Gewähr auf gedruckte Daten! Verfügbarkeit vorbehaltlich Zwischenverkauf). Prices excl. advertisement cost MachineSeeker / Preise exkl. Inserierungskosten MaschinenSucher Best woodworkingmachines from the Netherlands Holland Die besten holzbearbeitungsmaschinen aus die Niederlande De beste gebruikte machines uit Nederland

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2010, power: 17.1 kW (23.25 HP), input voltage: 400 V, input current: 44 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, travel distance X-axis: 4,320 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,326 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 170 mm, number of axes: 5, number of slots in tool magazine: 33, overall weight: 6,700 kg, Equipment: CE marking, Biesse Rover C 6.50 Config. 3 CNC machining centre 5-Axis Description Numerically controlled machining center ROVER C 6.50 Working fields - configuration 3 :X = 4600 mm; Y = 1535 mm; Z = 275 mm CE Safety devices 8 ATS panel supports - L = 152 5 mm - 32 sliding bases Automatic positioning of 8 panel supports and sliding bases (EPS X-Y ) Belt conveyor for the removal of chips and off-cuts Pneumatic locking system divided in 2 work areas in X 8 rear reference stops with a stroke of 115 mm 8 Stops with a stroke of 140 mm positioned at 1175 mm (L= 12 80 - 1525 - 1800 mm) 4 Side stops with a stroke of 140 mm (2 Lh + 2 Rh) inclusive of the pneumatic system. 4 removable central stops with a stroke of 140 mm (2 Lh + 2 Rh) incl. of the pneumatic system Sensor for the detection of lowered stops Pneumatic system for lifting bar supports with double pneumatic stroke 6 lifting bar supports with double pneumatic stroke (H=74mm)uniclamps Vacuum system for a 250 m3/h pump 1 x 250 m3/h rotary veins vacuum pump for standard vacuum system Composition C3-A1 Operating unit with 5 interpolating axes Prearrangement for the assembly of chip deflectors with pneumatic or inductive sensor on a 5-axes operating unit Composition C3-P2 Chain tool changer with 33 places at 120 mm center distance Iron gripper on chain toolchanger for chip deflector compatible with 5-axes electrospindle RH Chip deflector for 5-axes operating unit Liquid cooling unit for liquid cooled systems Automatic lubrication system Software update from BiesseWorks Basic machine to BiesseWorks Advanced machine CE (Despite our great care all changes, mistakes in technical data, prices and all information is subject to (typing) errors. No guarantee on printed data! Availability subject to prior sales). (Trotz größter Sorgfalt bleiben Änderungen, Irrtümer bei technischen Daten, Preisen und allen Angaben (Tipp-)Fehler vorbehalten. Keine Gewähr auf gedruckte Daten! Verfügbarkeit vorbehaltlich Zwischenverkauf). Gbsdpezqdmaefx Anmor Prices excl. advertisement cost MachineSeeker / Preise exkl. Inserierungskosten MaschinenSucher Best woodworkingmachines from the Netherlands Holland Die besten holzbearbeitungsmaschinen aus die Niederlande De beste gebruikte machines uit Nederland

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2000, BIESSE ROVER 23 Machining Center Description: CNI XNC Control X-axis working range: 2900 mm Y-axis working range: 1300 mm Z-axis working stroke: 140 mm 4th Axis: C-axis Table with 6 movable rails and vacuum cups Gbodpfxozrg Uij Anmsr 1x Vertical electro-spindle (7.8 kW, 24,000 rpm) with automatic tool changer, ISO 30 tool holders 8-position automatic tool changing system – mounted on the operating head Boring head featuring: - 10x Vertical Z-axis spindles - 4x Horizontal X-axis spindles - 2x Horizontal Y-axis spindlesir conditioning system for cooling and cleaning the machine control unit 250 m³/h vacuum pump IN EXCELLENT CONDITION – STILL LOCATED AT THE OWNER'S WORKSHOP Year of manufacture: 2000 (CE certified)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2019, Numerical control with bSolid software The multi-document software application in Windows environment allows the design of the finished product, the definition of its processes, the definition of the work plan, the simulation of the piece machining operations on the 3D model of the machine and generation of the necessary machine programs. bSolid - 3-Axis Machining bSolid - 5-Axis Machining Module for surface machining with 5-axis units and interpolation movements on all 5 available axes (X,Y,Z,C,B). The module includes the following commands: · assignment to surfaces three-dimensional roughing and finishing operations · spread or project a path onto a curved surface machining lying on a plane · follow 2D or 3D curves with any type of tool bSolid - 3D Engraving bSolid - Import external formats Fields of work: X = 5055 mm; Y = 1650 mm (may vary depending on configuration) Z = 200 mm with modules H=74 mm Z = 245 mm with modules H=29 mm Loadable piece in Y: * 1650 mm, with thickness up to 60 mm on H=74 mm modules * 1600 mm, with thickness over 60 mm on H=74 mm modules. 10 ATS floors – 40 trolleys The code includes: • 2 aluminium bars (n. 1 left and n. 1 right) on which the lateral stops slide. • 10 aluminum worktops. The worktops slide on hardened and ground linear guides using recirculating ball bearing slides. Locking occurs on both linear guides, front and rear, by means of four pneumatic cylinders. The control is activated by a button located in front of the work surface. The carriages slide on steel guides positioned above the extrusion. Pneumatic locking system divided into 2 locking zones in X Automatic positioning (EPS) for worktops. "EPS" (Electronic Positioning System) device for the automatic positioning by NC of the work surfaces and trolleys complete with locking devices capable of eliminate possible operator errors. Rear row stop, with 140 mm stroke Intermediate row stop, positioned at 405 mm, with 140 mm stroke. Front row stop, positioned at 1460 mm, with 140 mm stroke 4 lateral stops, with 140 mm stroke (2 right + 2 left) with system 2 additional side stops, with 140 mm stroke (1 right + 1 left). Sensor for checking whether the stops have descended 12 clamping devices for clamping narrow workpieces 6 loading aid bar lifts, for H=74 mm modules Configuration 5A, for Rover B. Configuration for high productivity and flexibility, thanks to the two operating groups 4 and 5 axes and the possibility of performing tool changes in concurrent time. It includes the axes and carriages for the movement of the main operating groups. Includes 2 inverters. Second Y-axis. Introduces the separation of the front and rear Y-carriages, with independent motorization. The two Y-carts have a maximum speed of 118 m/min. 13.2 kW (17.7 HP) electrospindle, HSK F63 connection, air-cooled. Main features: • 11 kW (14.7 HP) from 12,000 to 15,000 rpm in S1 service. • 13.2 kW (17.7 HP) from 12,000 to 15,000 rpm in S6 service. • Bearings ceramics. • Right and left rotation. • Rotation speed from 1,000 to 24,000 rpm programmable by NC. • The release pneumatic operation is carried out via a prismatic linear guide and recirculating ball bearings. A cover is included for chip extraction, with 6 different positions in Z managed by the NC, depending on the length of the tool, or by program. The suction mouth is automatically closed when the electrospindle is not working. Provision for subsequent installation of the 360° operating group (C-axis) Revolver tool maga... Gsdpfow D E A Esx Anmjbr

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2009, Biesse Works Control Working range on X axis mm 3500 Working range on Y axis mm 1585 Working stroke in Z axis mm 350 N ° 2 work fields Bar worktop No. 8 adjustable bars N° 4 pneumatic Bakelite bars for lifting the panel No. 3 adjustable suction cups for each bar with vacuum seal for fixing the panel during processing No. 1 4-axis vertical electrospindle (Vektor), with automatic tool change, HSK type cones 10-position rotary tool change system on the operating head 24-position chain tool change system - located on the rear of the chain machine Drilling head with vertical and horizontal spindles composed as follows: n. 12 vertical spindles in X n. 12 vertical spindles in Y n. 6 horizontal spindles in X n. 4 horizontal spindles in Y n. 1 independent blade for making X-grooves Front protection and safety system with carpets Perimeter protection grids Chip evacuation system with motorized belt Air conditioning system for cooling and cleaning of machine control Vacuum pump 250mc/h TECHNICAL DETAILS TO BE CHECKED Godpsw D Dhaefx Anmsbr

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008689, X axis working area: 6735 mm Y axis working area: 1650 mm Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 13.2 KW Number of controlled axes: 4 axes Maximum edge height: 65 mm Gbsdpfx Anjznuxbemjr Total number of drilling spindles: 30 Total number of tool changer positions: 22

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2022, axis stroke (X,Y,Z) 6735 x 1930 x 245 mm Number of spindle head vertical 0 St. Number of spindles head horizontal 0 St. Godpfxoxf Dwze Anmsbr Number of tools 39 St. Dust suction hood 2x 250 mm Number of milling agregates 2 St. Year 2022 Speed 18.000 / 24.000 U/min. Required air-pressure 7 bar Motor output 16,5 / 19,2 kW Capacity 250 m³/h Control BH660

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008013, X axis working area: 5780 mm Y axis working area: 1650 mm Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 13.2 KW Number of controlled axes: 4 axes Gsdpfowuz Ekjx Anmjbr Maximum edge height: 60 mm Total number of drilling spindles: 16 Total number of tool changer positions: 16

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2001, functionality: fully functional, Equipment: documentation/manual, Decommissioned 07.2026 as unnecessary Gbsdpfx Aoznk Rmjnmer

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2026, CNC Machining Centers Rover Multi Up M C S Working Area*: X = 3280 mm; Y = from 1580 to 1660 mm, depending on work conditions Z = 200 mm – 5-axis machining unit and drilling unit, with vacuum modules H = 74 mm Z = 245 mm – 5-axis machining unit and drilling unit, with vacuum modules H = 29 mm Workpiece Clearance*: Y = 1900 mm Axis Travel*: X = 3706 mm; Y = 2294 mm; Z1 = 515 mm; Z2 = 371 mm VACUUM SYSTEM Subdivision of the vacuum system into 2 working zones and 2 clamping zones in X. AUXILIARY VACUUM SYSTEM – 2 zones Gbedpfx Anoy Ehrxemsr Allows clamping of workpieces using vacuum templates. Remote Control RM850 Rover Multi Up M C S Panel – Multi Purpose Regular Configuration 2 Compatible with the turret tool magazine with 16 positions and the side tool magazine with 12 positions. The tool magazines can also be retrofitted. Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) for machine PC. 6 ATS workpiece supports – 18 module carriers — 6 aluminium workpiece supports. The positioning of the workpiece supports is via linear guides with ball bearing slider blocks. Clamping is performed on the front and rear linear guides via pneumatic cylinders. Clamping is released by a push button located at the front of the workpiece support. — 18 module carriers, 132 x 132 x H 41.5 mm, with independent pneumatic clamping. The vacuum modules can be rotated in 15° increments on the module carriers; an ideal solution for shaped parts. — 18 covers for module carriers without template. SA (Set-Up Assistant) working table for tables up to 1550 mm. Supported manual positioning system with motion direction indicator and position indicator. — Sensors on each working table and along the X-axis of the working area. — Display of direction and position achieved for the carriage during positioning phase, mounted on each working table. According to the programmed configuration of the working tables, the system indicates the direction of movement for each working table and carriage, and confirms with a green LED and audible signal when the correct position is reached, with a tolerance of +/- 1.5 mm. Subdivision of the pneumatic system into 2 working areas in X. Machining unit with 5 interpolating axes, 13 kWp (17.4 HP), with HSK F63 adapter, liquid-cooled – 20,000 rpm Extraction hood with 12 NC-controlled positions for the 5-axis electrospindle. Flange for preparation of a 5-axis interpolating machining unit for mounting aggregates. Coolant system Additional Z-axis carrier for rear machining units, with independent Z-axis. Drilling head BH 24 L Side tool magazine with 12 positions, integrated into the machine bed. Turret tool magazine with 16 positions, installed directly on the X machining unit. HSK F63 tool adapter, equipped with a long integrated flange, for saw blades on the 5-axis head. Saw blade 300 mm, for tool holder. Hi-Tech tool set Complete set of tools for the acceptance test Consisting of the following 9 parts Replacement of standard PC with a high-performance PC. Digital device for measuring tool length up to 130 mm diameter. bSolid NC-HOPS 8 MacroCAM Rover 1. AV NC-HOPS MacroCAM 1. License WorkCenter suction cup proposal 5-Axis Simultaneous Material removal simulation 12-month warranty period Location: ex stock 54634 Bitburg - immediately available -

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2014, I sell the BIESSE line consisting of: Biesse Winner WRT loading infeed device 1-channel Biesse control station for failure elements Godpfx Ansznfd Usmjbr Biesse Edge 1 shaped elements edge banding and element working station Biesse Edge 2 shaped elements edge banding station Biesse Edge 3 shaped elements working station Biesse Edge 4 shaped elements working station with drilling and inserting Wandres cleaning device Biesse Winner WRT unloading outfeed device 1-channel Manufacture year 2014. Available immediately. Possible to see at work. Possible to adjust for certain product. For more photos and details please send the request.

Condition: used, Ferwood Code: RU0000986 - Condition: Used - Compatible Machine: CNC BIESSE ROVER - If interested we offer a revision service, contact us. Gbedpfx Ansvazkfjmor

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 007686, X axis working area: 3765 mm Y axis working area: 1560 mm Working Table: Flat table Main Electrospindle power: 13.2 KW Number of controlled axes: 3 axes Godpfx Ansu Tliyemebr Total number of drilling spindles: 18 Total number of tool changer positions: 12

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008389, X axis working area: 8417 mm Y axis working area: 1930 mm Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 13.2 KW Number of controlled axes: 4 axes Maximum edge height: 60 mm Total number of drilling spindles: 39 Gbedpfx Ajyqxxrjnmor Total number of tool changer positions: 22