Used Lathe Cnc for sale (11,448)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1997, functionality: fully functional, spindle bore: 60 mm, spindle speed (max.): 4,000 rpm, We offer a used INDEX ABC 60 for sale. The condition is consistent with its age. Control system: Siemens. The machine can be inspected under power and is currently operational until Dec. 2025. It is equipped with a bar feeder for 3-meter bars. The machine is sold ex-site. Rodpfx Asxr Dzasgwsch

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2005, turning length: 575 mm, turning diameter: 380 mm, spindle speed (max.): 5,000 rpm, travel distance Z-axis: 575 mm, bar passage: 65 mm, bar diameter (max.): 65 mm, controller manufacturer: MAZATROL, controller model: 640 T NEXUS, CONTROLS .. CNC controls MAZATROL 640 T NEXUS WORKING RANGE TURNING .. turning diameter (max): 380 mm .. bar diameter (max): 65 mm Rcodpjxql D Hofx Agweh .. worpiece length max.: 575 mm MAIN SPINDLE .. spindle revolutions (max): 5000 /min .. drive power: 26 kW COUNTER SPINDLE .. spindle revolutions (max): 6000 /min .. drive power: 11 kW X/Z SLIDE .. Z-axis travel: 575 mm .. X-axis travel: 230 mm .. Y-axis travel: 585 mm .. number of tool positions (total): 12 .. - rotation speeds (max): 4500 /min .. - drive power: 5.5 kW Additional options • Kitagawa BB-08 3-jaw chuck • Kitagawa B-206 3-jaw chuck • Parts catcher • Interface for bar feeder • Tool holder package, including driven holders • Coolant pump • Chip conveyor

Condition: repair required (used), turning length: 400 mm, spindle bore: 75 mm, spindle speed (max.): 3,800 rpm, General information about the machine We are offering a used lathe from the manufacturer Okuma. The machine is offered as a spare parts carrier. The machine is running but not all functions can be guaranteed. The keys for operation are missing. The machine is in our warehouse and can be inspected under power Technical data Rcjdpfougmzkex Agwsh - CNC control: OSP 5000L-G CNC system (German) - Tool turret: 12 positions - Lathe chuck: 250 mm - Spindle: 70-3800 rpm (11 kW, 30 min; 7.5 kW - continuous operation) - Spindle bore diameter: 75 mm - X-axis travel: 400 x 0.001 mm - Z-axis travel: 500 x 0.001 mm - Cutting speed XZ: 0.01-1000 mm / U - Rapid traverse up to: 12,000 mm / min. - Power supply: 380V - Rated power of the machine: 21 kVA - Maximum load current: 36A - Machine dimensions (width x depth x height): 3.9 m (with chip conveyor) x 1.8 x 1.8 m - Machine weight: 4500 kg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2001, CNC LATHE Redpfxsxrz N Is Agwech Brand DMG GILDEMEISTER, model CTX 400 TWIN, year of manufacture 2001, HEIDENHAIN CNC-Pilot control, Twin spindle, SAUTER turret, C-axis, hollow clamping cylinder (connection for bar feeder), Hydraulic unit, chip conveyor, documentation,

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1987, functionality: unexamined, machine/vehicle number: C870955-099, turning diameter over cross slide: 210 mm, turning length: 300 mm, turning diameter: 260 mm, spindle speed (min.): 3,200 rpm, Takisawa lathe Rodjxryniopfx Agwjch

Condition: used, control SIEMENS SINUMERIC 840C x-axis 235 mm z-axis 270 mm x2-axis 235 mm z2-axis 680 mm hollow 65 mm max. turning speeds 4.000 min/-1 number of tool places 2 x 12 Pos. In our opinion, the machine is in good used condition and can be inspected under power by appointment. Rcedpfx Agoxqhqiowjh Technical Features & Accessories: - IEMCA TAL 65 AUTO bar loader - Various fixed and driven tool holders - C-axis Accessories, tools, and clamping devices shown are only included in the scope of delivery if noted in the additional information. Subject to changes and errors in the technical data and information, as well as subject to prior sale!

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2025, Optiturn L28 HS CNC lathe directly from the manufacturer. L28 HS - The OPTIMUM CNC lathe with Siemens control SINUMERIK 808D Advanced PPU 150. Strutted machine bed made of gray cast iron - Elaborate spindle bearings - Emergency stop impact switch - Central lubrication - Reference switch - Maintenance-friendly protective housing - Rear access flap for maintenance - Safety switch on the front sliding door - Turning turret is located behind the turning center (left turning tool) - Linear guide - Software package "SINUMERIK 808D on PC" included. (Practical training software, so that workpieces can be programmed and simulated offline on the PC. Free to download free of charge - Two-year SIEMENS warranty included Technical data Electrical connection 400 V / 3 Ph ~50 Hz Total connected load 3.75 kVA Rjdpfx Asw Ebngogwjch Spindle Drive motor S1 operation 2.2 kW Torque drive motor S1 operation 14 Nm Torque at the spindle 28 Nm Spindle holder DIN 6350 A2-3 Spindle cone 5C Spindle bore Ø 30 mm Cooling lubricant system Coolant pump output 95 W Tank capacity 25 liters Machine data Center height 169 mm Center width 430 mm Rotation Ø over cross slide Ø 200 mm Rotation Ø over machine bed Ø 300 mm Speed range Spindle speeds* 40 - 4,000 min-1 Tool turret Type electric Number of tool positions 6 tools Mounting height, width square max. 16 mm Mounting diameter of boring bar max. 16 mm Accuracy Repeat accuracy ± 0.01 mm Positioning accuracy ± 0.01 mm Bhajn7pvcu Travel distance X-axis 145 mm Z-axis 465 mm Feed speed X-axis 10,000 mm/min. Z-axis 12,000 mm/min. Machine leasing possible via Siemens Finance. Liquidity required.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2013, Ref. -No.: 10607 Manufacturer: GEMINIS Type: GT5 - G2 1200 x 1000 Year of construction: 2013 Type of control: CNC Control: Siemens 840 D - SL Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Spanien Machine-No.: 220XXXX Turning Diameter Over Bed: 1200 mm Centre Height: 615 mm Centre Distance: 1000 mm Travel -X Axis: 1260 mm Traverse path of the crossbar: 603 mm Rapid Traverse: 8000 mm / min cross-section: Ø 850 mm Machine length: 5830 mm Machine width: 3350 mm Machine Height: 2700 mm Weight Of The Machine Ca.: 14 t Rsdoxqd E Njpfx Agwjch

Condition: used, Swiss-type cnc lathe CITIZEN A32 VII PL Rcjdpsxrvxdjfx Agwoh

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2015, TAKISAWA TS4000YS year 2015 CNC control FANUC 32i-MODEL B Max. turning diameter 315 [mm] Max. swing over bed 600 [mm] Max. Turning length 735 [mm] Stroke X axis 267 [mm] Stroke Z axis 840 [mm] Stroke Y axis -50 [mm] / +70 [mm] Stroke A axis 780 [mm] Rapid traverse rate X axis 30000 [mm/min] Rapid traverse rate Z axis 30000 [mm/min] Rapid traverse rate Y axis 10000 [mm/min] Rapid traverse rate A axis 30000 [mm/min] Spindle nose A2-8" Max. bar diameter 82 [mm] Spindle throughbore 94 [mm] Max. spindle speed 4200 [rpm] Spindle power 22 [kW] Counter spindle nose F140 Counter spindle throughbore 53 [mm] Max. counter spindle speed 6000 [rpm] Counter spindle power 11 [kW] Max. tool holder cross-section 25 [mm] Rsdpowq Sf Tofx Agwjch Number of tool stations 15 Number of tool stations driven 15 Max. speed driven tools 6000 [rpm] Lubrication tank capacity 370 [l] Total power required 37 [kVA] Supply voltage 400 [V] Chip conveyor with machine 5 live tool holders Weight 6700 [Kg]

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1997, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 147105HE2, turning diameter over cross slide: 160 mm, turning length: 285 mm, turning diameter: 300 mm, spindle bore: 50 mm, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 60 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 100 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 290 mm, spindle motor power: 8,000 W, rapid traverse X-axis: 30 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30 m/min, Hyundai CNC lathe including bar feeder Rcjdpfxoxrykks Agwoh

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2006, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 122, (Please tell us your offer price) Sale only within Europe, incl. Turkey Price without packaging; delivery condition: FCA (machine location) ===== Rodpfx Agoxruvuewjch Technical data see handout. All warranty rights are excluded. For the correctness of the technical data and year of construction, for the completeness of accessories and tool equipment, and for compliance with all safety and environmental protection requirements specified in the accident prevention regulations. No sale to private individuals. Sales only within Europe, incl. Turkey Price without packaging; Delivery condition: FCA (machine location) ===== Technical data please see handout in attachment. German text leading language. Without any guaranty and warranty, including completeness of tools & accessories as well as environmental and safety regulations. No private sales.

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2025, Machine is in the exhibition and was only used for demonstration purposes. Optiturn L44 CNC Premium CNC lathe direct from the manufacturer. L44 CNC - The OPTIMUM Premium CNC milling machine with Siemens SINUMERIK 828D control is characterized by performance, speed, precision and long service life. Dimensions and weights Width/depth max. 2300 mm Length approx. 2530 mm Width/depth approx. 1595 mm Height approx. 1795 mm Weight approx. 2600 kg Working areas Lathe chuck diameter 150 mm Lathe chuck Hydraulic control of the clamping movement Center height 223 mm Center width 850 mm Swing diameter over machine bed 446 mm Swing diameter in the bed bridge 520 mm Swing diameter over cross slide 240 mm Bed width 300 mm Motor torque X-axis 6 Nm Z-axis 8.5 Nm Speed range Number of speed ranges 1 Speed range 10 - 3000 min¯¹ Electrical data Drive motor power 7 kW Supply voltage 400 V Mains frequency 50 Hz Electrical connection Total connected load 23 kVA Accuracy Repeat accuracy ± 0.005 mm Positioning accuracy ± 0.005 mm Hydraulic system Motor output 0.75 kW Tank capacity 50 l Coolant system Coolant pump output 270 W Tank capacity 90 l Machine data Chuck opening diameter 40 mm Motor(s) Torque drive motor 33 Nm Tailstock Mounting MK 4 Quill stroke 165 mm Quill diameter 52 mm Spindle Spindle holder DIN ISO 702-1 No. 5 Spindle bore/bar passage diameter 52 mm Control system Type Sinumerik 828D PPU 240 System software SW 24 CNC memory 3 MB Look Ahead 50 Block change time 3 ms Number of tools 128 Travel distance X-axis 250 mm Z-axis 760 mm Vertical spindle Power drive motor continuous operation S1 7 kW Power drive motor S6-30 % operation 16 kW Drive motor torque 33 Nm Drive motor S6-30 % operation 80 Nm Feed rate Speed X-axis 15000 mm/min Z-axis 15000 mm/min Feed force Feed force X-axis 7.5 kN Feed force Z-axis 5.3 kN Tool changer Hydraulic type; VDI 30 Number of tool positions 8 pcs Mounting height, width square max. 20 x 20 mm Boring bar mounting diameter max. 25 mm SIEMENS SAFETY INTEGRATED Equipment Main spindle - Solid design Machine bed - Heavily ribbed - High rigidity and durability Guideways - Stable flat bed guide Recirculating ball screw - For high rapid traverse speeds in all axes - Less wear and tear - For high positioning and repeat accuracy Cast body Rsdpfxew Ea Tus Agwech - Hardened HRC48-52 and heat-treated Machine feet - Six pieces - Optimum alignment of the machine Heat exchanger - Closed switch cabinet with intelligent cooling management - Optimum temperature even at high outside temperatures Tool changing system - Eight tool stations - Hydraulic VDI30 tool changer - Pick-up height max. 20 mm Hydraulic unit - Motor power 750 W - Tank capacity 50 liters - Clamping pressure / operating pressure 2,500 - 2,942 kPa Three-jaw chuck - Hydraulic three-jaw lathe chuck Ø 150 mm - Hydraulic loosening and clamping via foot switch - Simple clamping of workpieces - Hard and soft block jaws Central lubrication system - Automatic supply at intervals - Reduces wear on bearings, ledges and ball screws - With float switch. An acoustic signal sounds if the oil level is too low

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2024, Ref. -No.: 10605 Manufacturer: VDF WOHLENBERG Type: E 1000 Year of construction: 2024 Type of control: CNC Control: Sinumerik Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Germany Machine-No.: 32XX Turning Diameter Over Bed: 1500 mm Turning Diameter Over Slide Rest: 1150 mm Centre Height: 750 mm Centre Distance: 9000 mm Faceplate Diameter: 1000 mm Spindle Bore: 80 mm Spindle Speed Min.: 1,4 - 280 RPM Turning diameter over cross slide: 800 mm Swing diameter over cross slide: 800 mm Space requirement: 13000 x 2650 x 2250 mm Power Capacity: 320 kW Weight Of The Machine Ca.: 8 t Rsdpsxqd E Aofx Agwjch Max. turning diameter (in the offset): 2000 mm Size of the inner cone: metr. Kegel 1:20 quill cone: 80 O

Year of construction: 2011, condition: ready for operation (used), Swing diameter over bed/cross slide: 600mm/410mm, turning length: 1190mm, travel X/Z: 320mm/1250mm, speed: 3000rpm, spindle bore: 75mm, torque: 785Nm, tailstock taper: MK5, tool stations: 8, rapid traverse: 30m/min. Machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 5000mm/2000mm/2200mm, weight: approx. 5500kg, control: Siemens Sinumerik 840D powerline, operating hours: 22407h. Including conveyor and chip breaker. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible. Rcedpfxexruizs Agweh

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 132542, turning diameter over cross slide: 470 mm, turning length: 300 mm, turning diameter: 580 mm, spindle bore: 62 mm, spindle speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 260 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 380 mm, spindle motor power: 11,000 W, rapid traverse X-axis: 25 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 30 m/min, total height: 1,839 mm, total length: 1,865 mm, total width: 1,734 mm, overall weight: 3,200 kg, Equipment: documentation/manual, OKUMA LB2000EX-MC x 300mm OSP P200L CNC-Controller Number of axis - 3 Swing over bed - 580mm Swing over cross slide - 470mm Max dia. turning - 360 mm Max turning length - 300 mm X axis travel - 260 mm Z axis stroke - 390 mm Rapid X-axis 25,000 mm/min Rcjdpfoxrnr Nsx Agwsh Z axis rapid 30,000 mm/min Spindle nose - Flat Main spindle speed - 6000 rpm Main spindle power - 11 kW Main spindle diameter - 100 mm Kitagawa 6 inch chuck Driven tools - 6000rpm Driven tools - 5,5kW Turret type VDI 12 Stations Square tool section - 20mm Boring bar section - 32mm Tailstock Quill diameter - 70mm NC tailstock stroke - 415mm Konus - MK 4 Chip conveyor type high Wight - 3200kg One Touch dialog with colour High presure coolent

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, Technical details: turning diameter over bed: 400 mm turning dia. over face-slide: 400 mm turning length: 1155 mm max. turning diameter: Ø 350 mm travel -x axis: 205 mm travel -z axis: 620 mm control: Fanuc OI-TC max. tool weight: 235 (with Tailstock) kg spindle passage: Ø 80 mm Redpfx Agov Iplaewjch revolution per minute: steples U/min rapid traverse X-axis: 20 m/min rapid traverse Z-axis: 24 m/min tool turret - number of stations: 12 tailstock taper ISO: MK 4 mm tailstock quill stroke: 150 mm total power requirement: 45 kVA Weight approx.: 4,0 t dimension machine xH: 2,6 x 1,8 x 2,2 + Transformator m Equipment: -3-jaw chuck Ø 260mm with interchangeable jaws inside/outside -center point in tailstock -disk turret Ø 480mm -Hydraulic unit (40 liter capacity) -Coolant tray (80kg) -LOSMA exhaust air filter -Chip tray (30kg) -Chip conveyor (180kg) Operation via control panel and foot switch Accessories various bar sleeves Ø 78mm (outside) various clamping rods 1x 4-jaw lathe chuck Ø 200mm TOS various clamping jaws various clamping fixtures *

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2005, Ref. -No.: 10475 Manufacturer: SPINNER Type: TC52-MC Year of construction: 2005 Type of control: CNC Control: Siemes 810 D ShopTurn Rodoxqd Dropfx Agwech Storage location: Halberstadt Country of origin: Germany Machine-No.: AN0XXXX Turning Speeds: 280/400 RPM Tool holder type: Stahlhalter 9 pcs. Turning Diameter: 280/400 mm Turning Length: 550 mm Tool Taper: VDI 30 Spindle Speed Max.: 5.000 RPM Turret places: 12 Pcs Further information: Three-jaw chuck: Schunk brand Driven tool stations Oil mist extraction Coolant system Cabin, extraction Donaldson Tirit DCE Machine can be inspected under power by arrangement.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, Technical details: turning diameter over bed: 762 mm turning length: 850 mm facing movement (x-axis): 287 mm longitudinal traverse (z-axis): 864 mm control: CNC Haas spindle passage: 76 mm revolution per minute: max. 3400 steples U/min tailstock taper ISO: Ø 290 tailstock quill stroke: ja mm tool turret - number of stations: 12 Rcjdsvvt Emopfx Agweh electrics - voltage/frequency: 360/ 400 V - 50-60 Hz V/Hz Weight approx.: 6,3 t transport measurements machine: ca. 3,4 x 2,1 x 2,4 m Equipment: 3-jaw power chuck KITAKAWA Ø 250 mm (without jaws) 4200 rpm. Operable via 2-position foot switch. Tool turret with powered tools available. Electric coolant system provided. Tool measuring system available. I.D. *

Condition: used, Technical details: turning diameter over bed: 830 mm turning dia. over face-slide: 540 mm turning length: 3000 mm turning diameter over support: 540 mm centre distance: 3000 mm faceplate diameter: 800 mm Rapid feed X axis: 4 m/min. control: MTC K (Monforts) range of revolution per miute: 2 -1.600 U/min spindle passage: 88 mm tailstock taper ISO: MK6 tailstock quill stroke: 200 mm max. workpiece weight between centers: 1250 kg max. workpiece weight -without tailstock: 3000 kg turning dia. in gap: 1.200 mm length of gap: 310 mm Rjdpfewmlknox Agwoch Weight approx.: ca. 6.85 (ohne Späneförderer und Kühlmittelbehälter) t dimension machine xH: 2,55 x 1,1 x 1,29 m Cycle lathe Machine overhauled in 2010 Operation via control panel Thread cutting by calculation Interpolator of NC control Chip conveyor manufacturer Cable drag Three-jaw chuck D=500mm without clamping jaws Various accessories *

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1988, Technical details: turning diameter over bed: 360 mm turning dia. over face-slide: 160 mm turning length: 800 mm longitudinal traverse (z-axis): 810 mm facing movement (x-axis): 205 mm control: TX-8 spindle passage: 60 mm revolution per minute: 63 - 3150 / 2 step U/min feed:: 10.000 mm/min. tool turret - number of stations: 8 operating hours - idle run: 8834 h tailstock taper ISO: SK30 DIN 2080 tailstock quill stroke: 105 mm operating pressure: 40 bar total power requirement: 38 kW Weight approx.: 3,1 t dimension machine xH: 1,8 x 3,3 x 1,8 m dimensions of hydaulic: 580 x 400 x 750 mm Equipment: Rcodpfeu Rqabjx Agwjh Lathe chuck Ø 200 mm, hydraulic Feed force Z-axis = 8 kN and X-axis = 5 kN Coolant system control panel Accessories Fine adjustment device for tool set-up *

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2000, Technical details: turning diameter over bed: 600 mm turning dia. over face-slide: 260 mm turning length: 610 mm facing movement (x-axis): 160 mm longitudinal traverse (z-axis): 610 mm control: Siemens 810D revolution per minute: 1 - 6300 steples U/min max. torque on the spindle: 86 Nm spindle passage: Ø 42 mm external spindle dia. in forward position: Ø 80 mm feed motor: X/Z: 5000 / 7000 N Rcedpfx Aeu Ixwisgweh rapid motion - x-axis: X/Z: 16 / 20 m/min tool turret - number of stations: 12 / VDI 30 tailstock taper ISO: MK4 tailstock adjustment: 500 (Hub) mm Main spindle capacity: 7,5 (100%=11kW) kW electrics - voltage/frequency: 3/PE ~ 400V und 50/60Hz V/Hz total power requirement: 20 kVA (11 kW) Weight approx.: 4,0 t dimension machine xH: 3,0 x 2,0 x 2,1 m Further technical specifications: C-axis Distance main spindle - tailstock: 805 mm Power chuck Röhm Ø 160 mm (without jaws), speed 7,500 rpm. Tailstock with live center Coolant device, coolant supply via tool turret Switch cabinet with cooling, Rittal type SK3393100 Workpiece collecting tray Machine lighting Accessories: 1x driven tool i.D. *

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2006, Technical details: turning diameter over bed: 500 mm turning dia. over face-slide: 290 mm Rcsdpswtct Hsfx Agwjh turning length: 850 mm centre distance: 850 mm longitudinal traverse (z-axis): 900 mm facing movement (x-axis): 260 mm control: Manuaplus 4110 revolution per minute: 10 - 3000 / 2x seples U/min max. torque on the spindle: 920 Nm spindle bore: 70 mm facing movement (x-axis): 8 m/min. longitudinal traverse (z-axis): 10 m/min. operating hours - idle run: ca. 34.600 h tailstock taper ISO: MK 5 tailstock quill stroke: 180 mm total power requirement: 24 kVA Weight approx.: 5,2 t dimension machine xH: 2,2 x 3,2 x 1,9 m Multifix steel holder size C 3-jaw chuck Ø 250mm chip tray manual hour counter live center in tailstock Operation control panel and monitor Accessories: 4-jaw chuck Ø 250mm with internal jaws various chuck keys Machine lighting 8x foot plates 4x wedge lifters various pairs of jaws 1x bezel Ø 100mm closed *

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, Technical details: turning diameter over bed: 610 mm turning dia. over face-slide: 350 mm swing diameter over bed: 610 mm centre distance: 1390 mm control: Fanuc 0i-Mate TC Rcsdpfxou Ix I Ue Agweh x-axis: plan: ca. 305 mm z-axis: längs: ca. 1350 mm revolution per minute: 22 - 2200 U/min feed:: X + Z-Achse: 5 / 10 m/min. spindle bore: Ø 70 mm tool turret - number of stations: 6 tailstock quill taper MT: MK5 tailstock quill stroke: 150 mm Weight approx.: 2,7 t total power requirement: 15 kW dimension machine xH: 3,7 x 1,7 x 1,7 m dimensions of hydaulic: 630 x 460 x 900 mm other features: -hydr. chuck TONFAU Ø 300mm -hydraulics -Coolant system -control panel -double foot switch accessories: -div. mold jaws -div. soft jaws -6 footrests *

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1987, Technical details: turning diameter over bed: 180 mm turning length: 490 mm swing diameter: 450 mm cross travel: Z-Weg: 168 mm control: Traub TX8D revolution per minute: 20 - 4000 U/min spindle passage: Ø 60 mm operating hours - idle run: 23.495 h tool turret: 12 tools total power requirement: 38 kW Weight approx.: 4,2 t dimension machine xH: 3,6 x 2,5 x 2,2 m Tool holder straight shank DIN 69880 (VDI 3425) Ø 40x63 Röhm lathe chuck Ø 200mm hydraulic clamping Operation via double foot switch and control panel/operating panel. Coolant device The Traub carries an integrated chip conveyor with an ejection height of 1,100mm (currently without function). Accessories: Rcsdpfeu Ix N Sox Agwsh multiple small parts 8 x machine feet without tailstock i.D. *