Used Biglia Smart Turn S for sale (72,685)

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2015, operating hours: 9,564 h, functionality: fully functional, CNC FANUC 31i-MODEL B5 TOOL PRESETS N. 2 SELF-CENTERING N. 7 HSK TOOLS Ledpfxjwayv Ee Aftsrp

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2009, operating hours: 3,483 h, functionality: fully functional, total length: 5,550 mm, total width: 2,250 mm, bar diameter (max.): 95 mm, overall weight: 8,400 kg, Max. workable diameter from bar mm 95 Max. workable diameter from recovery mm 500 Max. workable length mm 1250 Max. rotating diameter mm 700 MAIN ELECTROSPINDLE: Variable rotation range rpm 40-2800 ASA spindle nose 8" Spindle hole mm 111 Internal diameter of bearings mm 150 Self-centering diameter mm 315 Motor power kW 30 TAILSTOCK TO FOLLOW: Positioning stroke mm 1,100 Quilt stroke mm 150 Quilt diameter mm 115 MOTORIZED ELECTROSPINDLE HEAD: Type of attachment HSK-63 Max. revolutions RPM 6,000 Electrospindle motor power Kw 9 B AXIS UNIT: Total rotation range 205° Rotation range beyond the tailstock axis 15° Rotation range beyond the spindle axis 10° Angular position with mechanical block Every 5° CROSS SLIDE Max. Z stroke mm 1300 Max. X stroke mm 520 Ledpfx Asvv Ud Reftsrp Max. stroke Y mm 210 (+120 – 90) TOOL MAGAZINE Magazine capacity 40 pos Max. diameter of tools with adjacent tools mm 80 Max. diameter of tools without adjacent tools mm 140

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2012, 750mm Swing, 500mm max. machining diameter, 1300mm max turning length, 3000rpm main spindle, 65mm bar capacity, 8,000rpm milling 20kW, C axis 0.001 degrees, Y axis - 90/+120mm, 40 station ATC, , milling speed 4,000rpm, 30kW spindle motors, Lrjdoxqyg Nepfx Aftop FANUC 31i control, 3 Jaw Power Chuck, Swarf Conveyor, Coolant, tool setter, parts catcher, barfeed unit.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2012, operating hours: 14,597 h, travel distance X-axis: 195 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 560 mm, controller manufacturer: MAZATROL, controller model: Smart, number of slots in tool magazine: 12, number of axes: 2, Horizontal turning machine manufactured in 2012. This Mazak Quick Turn Smart 200 features a 12-position turret and is equipped with a Hainbuch chuck, enhancing its versatility. It has a bar capacity of 65 mm, making it suitable for various turning applications. If you are looking to get high-quality turning capabilities, consider the Mazak Quick Turn Smart 200 machine we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Supply Voltage: 3 Phase, 400 V, 50 Hz • Control Circuit Voltage: AC100 V / DC24 V • Main Breaker Interrupting Capacity: 20 kA • Supply Voltage (Ue): 400 V, 3~ • Rated Current (Ie): 3.5 A • Frequency: 50 Hz • Weight Barfeeder: 500 kg • Breaking Capacity (Icn): 5 kA • Control: Mazatrol Smart • Turret: 12-Position • Bar Capacity: 65 mm • Hainbuch Chuck (Standard Chuck Also Included) Ljdpfxszhbqko Aftjrp • Optional, not included: IEMCA KID 80 Bar Feeder (2012) Technical Specification Counter Spindle No Driven Tools No

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2012, spindle speed (max.): 4,000 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 180 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 42 mm, total height: 1,650 mm, overall weight: 1,200 kg, controller manufacturer: FAGOR, controller model: 8055tc, number of axes: 2, This Pinacho Smart Turn 180/42 1000 was manufactured in 2012. A robust horizontal turning machine featuring a turning length of 1000mm, spindle clearance of 42mm, and a turning diameter of 360mm. It includes an 8-fold tool changer and Fagor 8055tc control. Dimensions are 2.5 x 1.15 x 1.65 m, weighing approximately 1.2t. Consider the opportunity to buy this Pinacho Smart Turn 180/42 1000 horizontal turning machine. Contact us for more information. Lredpfx Afox D Ivfstjp • Turning diameter: 360 mm • Turning length: 1000 mm • Tool changer: 8-fold vdi20 • Machine still under power • chuck: 200 mm in diameter. Dimensions Machine Depth 2500 mm Technical Specification Driven Tools No Counter Spindle No

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, machine/vehicle number: 49615, Lg.no. 24100 Technical data approx: - largest turning diameter - over bed 560 mm - over cross slide 315 mm - Center width 1500 mm - Travel distance cross slide approx. 300 mm - Spindle bore 80 mm - Taper of the tailstock quill MK 4 - Travel of the tailstock quill 150 mm - Spindle speeds 1 - 2500 rpm - Rapid traverse X / Y Lodpfx Afjtp Ipusterp - with: - NC control FANUC - 2 E. handwheels for manual turning - Tailstock - Coolant device - Drive 400 V / 7.5 kW - Space requirement approx. W 3250 x H 1750 x D 1500 mm - Weight approx. 3800 kg

Year of construction: 2006, condition: ready for operation (used), A Pinacho CNC precision parallel lathe is available. Center height: 180mm, center width: 750mm-1000mm, turning diameter over guide bed/longitudinal slide/cross slide: 360mm/335mm/198mm, bed width: 250mm, bore: 42mm, speed: 4000rpm, feed X/Z: 10m/min, rapid traverse X/Z: 10m/min. Tailstock shank diameter: 58mm, tailstock shank length: 200mm, Morse taper: MK3, min. travel of moving/fixed steady rest: 10mm, max. travel of moving/fixed steady rest: 70mm/114mm, control: Fanuc 0i. Documentation available. On-site inspection is possible Lrodpjwftcvefx Aftop

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2025, operating hours: 100 h, control type: CNC control, degree of automation: automatic, actuation type: electric, controller manufacturer: Bosch Rexroth, controller model: Han´s 901, laser type: fiber laser, laser source manufacturer: Han´s Laser, laser hours: 20 h, laser power: 12,000 W, laser wavelength: 1,050 nm, sheet thickness (max.): 35 mm, sheet thickness steel (max.): 35 mm, sheet thickness stainless steel (max.): 30 mm, sheet thickness aluminum (max.): 30 mm, sheet thickness brass (max.): 20 mm, sheet thickness copper (max.): 20 mm, table length: 3,000 mm, table height: 700 mm, working length: 3,000 mm, working width: 1,500 mm, travel distance X-axis: 3,100 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,600 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 100 mm, feed rate X-axis: 280 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 280 m/min, cutting speed: 10,000 mm/min, repeat accuracy: 0.05 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 2,150 kg, power: 12 kW (16.32 HP), input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, type of cooling: water, compressed air connection: 14 bar, overall weight: 10,000 kg, total length: 10,000 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 2,200 mm, warranty duration: 12 months, Equipment: CE marking, centralized greasing system, cooling unit, documentation/manual, dust extraction, emergency stop, fume extraction, safety light barrier, Trade Show Machine, New Machine at an Unbeatable Price!!! The machine offered here is a new trade show model from year 2025, which was exhibited at the EMO show in Hanover in September 2025 and is now looking for a new owner. The machine is new! Demonstration unit! The original list price for this machine is €295,000. Our unique offer for this machine: €199,000!!! including delivery within Germany, installation, and training. No hidden additional costs. The machine can be inspected from October 2025 and tested from December 2025. Cutting samples and cutting videos are available. From here, you will find the machine description. G3015 HF Expert 12kW Fiber Laser Cutting Machine 1.5 x 3m with hydraulic shuttle table and extraction system, including delivery, installation, CAD CAM software, and training. Our high-end fiber laser cutting system features premium components and a distinctive design Cutting area X-axis [mm]: 3100 Y-axis [mm]: 1600 Z-axis [mm]: 150 Maximum speed [m/min]: 280 Acceleration: 3 g Precision [mm]: 0.03 Repeatability [mm/m]: 0.02 Dimensions Length [mm]: 10,000 Width [mm]: 2,550 Height [mm]: 2,200 Maximum sheet weight [kg/table]: 2,150 Available laser power: 6 kW, 12 kW, 20 kW, 30 kW Cutting capacity (quality cut/separation cut) Lrjdpfoxlt Hfex Aftsp Steel: 30mm/40mm Stainless steel: 25mm/30mm Aluminum: 25mm/30mm Brass: 14mm/16mm Suitable for processing the following materials: Steel, stainless steel, aluminum, copper, brass, titanium, and nickel alloys Fully enclosed for laser safety Compact design saves shipping costs and reduces installation time Hollow structure design suitable for up to 60 kW Improved access via a full-length side sliding door Ergonomic loading and unloading for small workpieces High load capacity for thick materials thanks to hydraulic shuttle table High dynamics and productivity due to powerful controls and motors Integrated control cabinet and laser source with maintenance-friendly access Various automation solutions available Fast service response thanks to remote service support Fully enclosed machine with OD5+ laser safety glass windows CE compliant The control cabinet, laser source, pneumatic system, lubrication system, and the table drive motors are fully integrated into the main frame. Simple visual inspection via the side sliding door Convenient loading and unloading through the side sliding door Easy cutting of a wide variety of small parts Faster response times for demo cuts Higher dynamics & productivity Thanks to the optimized machine frame and extruded aluminum gantry, equipped with the fast real-time controller 'Han’s 901 (Rexroth)' and powerful Rexroth motors, the HF Expert achieves exceptionally high speeds and acceleration. Configuration and component selection Control system: Han’s 901 (Rexroth, Germany) Servo drives: Rexroth, Germany Cutting head: Han’s Laser Linear guide: Hiwin, Taiwan (China) Rack: Güdel, Switzerland Gearbox: Güdel, Switzerland Servo valve: Lanny, Germany Machine frame: Han’s, China Gantry: Han’s, China Z-axis: Han’s, China Shuttle table: Han’s, China

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2007, operating hours: 2,974 h, spindle speed (max.): 2,400 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 330 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,550 mm, spindle motor power: 4,000 W, total height: 1,850 mm, overall weight: 3,350 kg, controller manufacturer: FANUC, controller model: 0i Mate TC, product length (max.): 3,330 mm, number of axes: 2, Horizontal turning machine manufactured in 2007. This Pinacho Smart-turn6 260 features a distance between centers of 1,500 mm and a maximum turning diameter with soft jaws of 500 mm. It is equipped with a spindle speed of 2,400 rpm and a spindle bore of 80 mm. If you are looking to get high-quality turning capabilities, consider the Pinacho Smart-turn6 260 machine we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Distance Between Centers: 1,500 mm • Spindle Bore: 80 mm • Maximum Turning Diameter over Cross Slide: 300 mm • Maximum Turning Diameter with Soft Jaws: 500 mm • Spindle Speed: 2,400 rpm • Spindle Motor Power: 4 kW • Connected Load: 17 kW • Tailstock Quill Diameter: 58 mm Ljdpjzkr Swefx Afterp • Tailstock Taper: Morse 5 (MT5) • Machine Length: 3,330 mm • Machine Height: 1,850 mm • Machine Weight: 3,350 kg • Chuck Diameter: 260 mm • Documentation: Operating Manual Included • Condition: Good Condition • Service History: Service Maintained • CE Marked Technical Specification Counter Spindle No Driven Tools No

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2009, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 063/09, thread length: 50 mm, workpiece diameter (max.): 6 mm, SMART MACHINERY NG S-DD Thread Rolling Machine Fully operational, currently in production. Year: 2009 Incoterm: EXW Calolziocorte (LC) The machine automatically sets up for stroke change. The NG S-DD thread rolling machine is equipped for changing the ram stroke depending on the length of the comb used. Minimum pass-through diameter: 1 mm. Maximum pass-through diameter: 6 mm. Maximum threaded length: 50 mm. Maximum rivet length: 80 mm. Maximum output: 700 pcs/min. Ledpfx Afeyycr Nstorp Main motor power: 13.9 kW Installed electric power: 16 kW

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, turning diameter: 660 mm, spindle speed (max.): 5,000 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 35 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 580 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 160 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,045 mm, total height: 2,600 mm, total length: 3,820 mm, total width: 2,060 mm, overall weight: 10,400 kg, CNC Turning Milling centre with Second Spindle CNC Control Mazatrol PC Fusion CNC 640 MT PRO Turning diameter 550/660 mm Turning length 1016 mm Spindle bore diameter 65 mm Spindle speed 35-5000 R/min X-axis movement 580 mm Y-axis movement 160 mm Lrsdpfx Afoy Nytpstjp Z-axis movement 1045 mm B-axis travel 225 ° mm C-axis indexing 360° Spindle nose A2-6 Tool Taper Capto C6 Number of tools in magazine 40 If you have any questions concerning the machine, please do not hesitate to contact us by phone or e-mail.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2005, Parts shown by hand not come. Technical details are in attachment. Ljdjzmx I Djpfx Aftorp

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2006, operating hours: 16,928 h, spindle speed (max.): 5,000 rpm, travel distance X-axis: 155 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 389 mm, overall weight: 3,760 kg, number of axes: 3, This 3-axis Biglia B301 SM was manufactured in 2006. It features a robust Hainbuch collet chuck for both the main and counter spindle, ensuring precision in your turning operations. The machine has a weight of 3760 kg and operates at a spindle speed of 504 RPM. If you are looking to get high-quality turning capabilities, consider the Biglia B301 SM horizontal turning machine we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Electrical: 400 V, 3 phases, 40 A, 50 Hz • Spindle speed: 5000 RPM • Workpiece counter: 30 • The spindle bore is 42 mm • Operating time: 16,928 h Additional equipment Lrjdjyx T Raepfx Aftsp • Hainbuch collet chuck for main spindle • Hainbuch collet chuck for counter spindle • LTA dust extraction system • Not included: loading magazine, tool holders, collets Technical Specification Counter Spindle Yes Driven Tools Yes

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2003, CNC: GE Fanuc Series 18i-TB No. 02 motorized turrets Ljdpfezmgh Eox Aftjrp Y-axis on rear turret Sub-spindle TOP loader

Condition: used, turning diameter over cross slide: 250 mm, rotational speed (max.): 3,500 rpm, CNC Lathe Brand: Biglia Model: B131/S1 Ledszlfqvopfx Afterp Maximum turning diameter: Ø250mm Distance between centers: 400 mm Spindle bore: Ø49 mm Maximum spindle speed: ±3500 RPM Digital readout

Condition: used, mileage: 51,904 km, power: 52 kW (70.70 HP), first registration: 08/2002, fuel type: gasoline, next inspection (TÜV): 07/2027, color: black, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro3, number of seats: 2, Equipment: ABS, immobilizer system, Thank you for your interest in one of our vehicles. We, ALLROUND Autovermietung GmbH, offer you a well-maintained vehicle for sale. If you are interested in this vehicle, please contact us by phone or email to arrange a viewing appointment. The vehicles are not always located directly at our premises. The vehicle is located in Leipzig!!! The vehicle is located in Leipzig!!! Ledszkpcgjpfx Aftsrp The vehicle is located in Leipzig!!! The vehicle is located in our external storage facility; therefore, please contact us to arrange a viewing. Thank you very much! Subject to price changes, typographical errors, and errors, as well as prior sale.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1999, Parts shown by hand not come. Ledpjwbz Tujfx Aftsrp

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2004, functionality: fully functional, CNC: GE Fanuc Series 18i-TB MAIN SPINDLE CAPACITY Max. workable diameter from bar stock: 83 mm Max. workable diameter from chuck: 200 mm Max. workable length: 300 mm Max. turning diameter: 200 mm Distance between the two spindle centers: 690 mm TAILSTOCK CAPACITY Max. workable diameter from bar stock: 45 mm Max. workable diameter from chuck: 160 mm Max. workable length: 200 mm Max. turning diameter: 160 mm Distance between the two spindle centers: 690 mm MAIN SPINDLE Variable speed range: 100 - 4000 rpm Spindle nose: ASA 8'' Spindle bore: 80 mm Bearing inner diameter: 110 mm Self-centering diameter: 210 mm Collet chuck: DIN 6343 Motor power: 22-26 kW (50%) TAILSTOCK Variable speed range: 100 - 4000 rpm Spindle nose: ASA 5'' Spindle bore: 56 Bearing inner diameter: 90 mm Self-centering diameter: 165 mm Collet chuck: DIN 6343 Motor power: 5.7-7.5 kW (50%) TURRET Number of positions: 12 Type: bidirectional Outer tool shank: 20 x 20 Boring tool shank: Ø 32 Indexing time (1 position): 0.2 sec POWERFUL TOOLS Number of positions: 12 Variable speed range: 100-3000 rpm Motor power: 1.1 - 3.7 kW (25%) MAIN SPINDLE AXES X-axis stroke: 160 mm Z-axis stroke: 390 mm X-axis rapid traverse: 12 m/min Y-axis rapid traverse: 6 m/min TAILSTOCK AXES X-axis stroke: 158 mm Z-axis stroke: 240 mm Y-axis stroke: /// X-axis rapid traverse: 12 m/min Z-axis rapid traverse: 20 m/min Y-axis rapid traverse: /// C-AXIS - CONTROLLED Type: CS (direct) Minimum programmable value: 0.001° Rapid traverse speed: 80 rpm COOLANT Tank capacity: 180 lt Pump flow rate: 150 lt/min Pump motor power: 0.75 kW DIMENSIONS - WEIGHT Overall dimensions with chip conveyor: 4107x2128x2204h mm Center height of the main spindle: 1050 mm Lsdpfxsxhciuo Aftjrp Weight with chip conveyor: 7200 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, functionality: fully functional, CNC: GE Fanuc Series 18i–T Max. bar working diameter: 45 mm Max. working length: 200 mm Max. second operation (chucking) diameter: 160 mm MAIN SPINDLE Max. spindle speed: 4000 rpm Spindle nose: ASA 5" Spindle bore: 56 mm Bearing inner diameter: 90 mm Motor power: 7.5 kW SUB SPINDLE Max. spindle speed: 4000 rpm Spindle nose: ASA 5" Spindle bore: 56 mm Bearing inner diameter: 90 mm Motor power: 7.5 kW TURRETS Ledpfx Aow I Rzmofterp Number of positions: 12 Indexing time (1 position): 0.2 s Type: Bidirectional External tool shank: 20x20 mm Boring bar shank: 32 mm LIVE TOOLS head 1-2 Number of positions: 12 Variable speed range: 100–3000 rpm Motor power: 3.7 kW AXES X-axis stroke: 158 mm Z-axis stroke: 240 mm B-axis stroke: 420 mm DIMENSIONS – WEIGHT Dimensions with chip conveyor: 4107 x 2128 x 2204 h mm Weight with conveyor: 6700 kg Complete with Iemca bar loader

Condition: good (used), Different toolholders in very good condition. Lredpfx Afsy Txiqjtsp

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2016, FOR SALE CNC Lathe TOP TURN S20C – Year 2016 Brand: TOP TURN (Distributed by major machine tool networks) Model: S20C Year: 2016 CNC Control: FAGOR (User-friendly interface for teaching cycles and ISO programming) Technical Description This 2016 CNC lathe is a versatile machine, ideal for precision work in small to medium production batches. Its modern design offers excellent rigidity and very quick set-up, thanks to the Fagor control system. Capacity: - Swing over bed: 400 mm - Swing over carriage: 210 mm - Distance between centers: 1,000 mm - Bed width: 300 mm Lodpfxey Sltto Afterp Spindle: - Spindle bore: 52 mm (Comfortable bar capacity) - Spindle speed: Up to 2,500 rpm - Spindle nose: Camlock D1-6 Included Equipment - FAGOR CNC: Color screen, cycle-assisted programming (ideal for operators used to conventional machines) - Turret: Automatic turret (electric/hydraulic) for fast and programmable tool changes - Chuck: Precision 3-jaw chuck (approx. 200 mm diameter) - Tailstock: CM4, robust - Safety: Fully enclosed machine with interlocked sliding doors, compliant with CE standards - Coolant system: Centralized with integrated chip tray Highlights - Recent (2016): Modern electronic and mechanical components, easy to source spare parts - Precision: High-precision ball screws on both axes - Compact: Small footprint relative to its machining capacity Weight and Dimensions - Dimensions: Approx. 2,400 x 1,400 x 1,700 mm - Weight: Approx. 1,800 kg

Year of construction: 2023, condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: MS06001129, The MlttiScan 600 is used for capturing master data. Ljdpsy U Upvofx Afterp The articles are measured and weighed using 3D measurement technology.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2001, LATHE BIGLIA B 501 SM YEAR: 2001 CNC GE FANUC SERIES 18i - T SUB-SPINDLE LIVE TOOLING BAR CAPACITY: 68 mm MAX. MACHINING DIAMETER FROM SUB-SPINDLE: 250 mm MAX. MACHINING LENGTH: 500 mm MAX. SWING DIAMETER: 520 mm CHUCK DIAMETER 1: 250 mm SUB-SPINDLE CHUCK DIAMETER: 165 mm SPINDLE SPEED 1 AND 2: 40 – 4,000 RPM TOOL TURRET: 12 POSITIONS TYPE: BIDIRECTIONAL TRAVELS: X: 215 mm Z: 510 mm B: 510 mm TOOL PRESETTER CHIP CONVEYOR Ljdsyup Tujpfx Aftsrp DRIVEN TOOLS: 2 UNITS COMPLETE DOCUMENTATION WEIGHT: 5,300 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, BIGLIA B 470 YSM LATHE LATHE WITH Y AXIS SUB-SPINDLE 2 MOTORIZED TURRETS FANUC 18i-TB CNC CONTROL CAPACITY: Max working diameter from bar (main spindle/sub-spindle): 68/45 mm Max working diameter (chucking, main spindle/sub-spindle): 200/160 mm Max working length (main spindle/sub-spindle): 300/200 mm Max swing diameter (main spindle/sub-spindle): 200/160 mm Lrsdpey Ndx Aofx Aftep Bar passage (main spindle): 65 mm SPINDLE: Main spindle/sub-spindle speed range: 100–4000 / 100–4000 rpm Spindle nose (main spindle/sub-spindle): ASA 6'' / ASA 5'' Spindle bore (main spindle/sub-spindle): 80/56 mm Spindle motor power (50% duty cycle) (main spindle/sub-spindle): 22-26 / 5.7-7.5 kW UPPER/LOWER TURRET: Number of driven tool positions: 12 Driven tool speed range: 100–3000 rpm Drive motor power: 1.1–3.7 kW (25% duty cycle) AXES: X-axis travel (main spindle/sub-spindle): 160/158 mm Z-axis travel (main spindle/sub-spindle): 390/240 mm Y-axis travel (main spindle): 100 mm (40-60) B-axis travel (sub-spindle): 420 mm C AXIS (CONTROLLED): Minimum programmable value: 0.001° DIMENSIONS: Overall dimensions with chip conveyor: 4107 x 2128 x 2204h mm EQUIPPED WITH: – Chip conveyor

Condition: defective spare-parts repository (used), In this offer you purchase a used protein shake machine ‘BodyShake Smart Touch’ Object of sale: 1 x BodyShake Smart Touch with the following equipment: Payment module missing Lrsdot H D Icopfx Aftep Condition: This offer is a used device, which may show signs of use (minor scratches or yellowing). (minor scratches or yellowing). Packaging and dispatch: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please make an appointment for this! Seaworthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! For further information you can of course also contact us personally.