Used Biesse Rover C 9.50 for sale (55,433)

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008480, X axis working area: 4600 mm Y axis working area: 1935 mm Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 18 KW Number of controlled axes: 5 axes Total number of drilling spindles: 31 Total number of tool changer positions: 58 Blodpey Edqksfx Ak Eog

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2014, total height: 2,800 mm, total length: 6,900 mm, total width: 2,800 mm, Empty weight: 6.100 kg - Details: - └ Description: Needs repair to B-axis and leaks to seals - Year: 2014 - Documentation available: No - CE certificate present: No - Serial number: 10333 - Number of milling spindles [pcs.]: 2 - └ Milling spindle 1: - - Number of controlled axes [pcs.]: 5 - └ Milling spindle 2: - - Number of controlled axes [pcs.]: 3 - Type milling table: Beam table - Tool clamping system: HSK-F63 - Material clamp system: Pneumatic - Drilling unit present: Yes - Tool changer positions [pcs.]: 45 - System/software: BiesseWorks - Safety feature: Safety mat, Enclosed fence, Door interlock switches - Vacuum pump present: Yes - └ Number [pcs.]: 2 - └ Brand: Becker - └ Type: Vtlf 2.250 - └ Year of manufacture: 2011 - └ Main motor power [kW]: 5.5 - └ Capacity [m³/h]: 244 - └ Connection diameter [mm]: 60 - └ Vacuum pressure [bar]: 200 - └ Oil free: Yes - Tools included: Yes - CNC documentation available: User keys/licenses, USB stick - Table length [mm]: 4800 - Table width [mm]: 1500 - Voltage [V]: 400 - Current consumption [A]: 39 - Fuse [A]: 63 - Power [kW]: 22.8 - Transport dimensions: 6900mm x 2800mm x 2800mm (l x w x h) - Transport weight [kg]: 6100kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 1 Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Blsdpfx Akjyr Rnuj Ejg Glenn Smeets

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008338, X axis working area: 4600 mm Y axis working area: 1935 mm Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 15 KW Bodsx A Tkxjpfx Ak Eelg Number of controlled axes: 5 axes Total number of drilling spindles: 31 Total number of tool changer positions: 37

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2007, travel distance X-axis: 4,600 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,935 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 275 mm, number of axes: 5, This 5-axis Biesse Rover C9.50 was manufactured in 2007. It features a large working area (X=4600 mm, Y=1935 mm, Z=275 mm), an automatic lubrication system, and a control unit for 5-axis interpolation. The machine includes a vacuum system, a conveyor belt for chip removal, and a liquid cooling unit. If you are looking to get high-quality CNC machining capabilities, consider the Biesse Rover C9.50 machine we have for sale. Contact us for more information. Worktable and clamping • 8 ATS plate holders (L = 1525 mm) and 24 slide rails • Automatic positioning of plate holders and slide rails (EPS X-Y) • Pneumatic locking system, divided into 2 working areas in X • 8 rear reference stops, stroke 115 mm • 8 stops, stroke 140 mm, positioned at 1175 mm (L = 1280 / 1525 / 1800 mm) • 8 stops, stroke 140 mm, positioned at 770 mm (L = 1280 / 1525 / 1800 mm) • 4 side stops, stroke 140 mm (2 left + 2 right), with pneumatic system • 4 removable center stops, stroke 140 mm (2 left + 2 right), with pneumatic system • Sensor for detecting lowered stops • Pneumatic system for lifting bar holders • 6 lifting bar holders for easy loading (H = 74 mm modules)Vacuum • Vacuum system for a 250 m3/h pump • 250 m3/h rotary vane vacuum pump for standard vacuum systemMachining units and configuration • Composition C3-A1: • Device for mounting chip deflectors with pneumatic or inductive sensors on a 5-axis machining unit Bodpfx Aex D H Hcok Eolg • Flange for mounting units on a work unit with 5 interpolating axes (units usable only when the electric spindle is vertical) • Composition C3-P2: • Additional Z slide for rear work units, controlled by an independent Z axis • 16 vertical and 4 horizontal boring spindles in Y-direction • Chain tool changer with 22 positions (180 mm center distance) • Iron gripper for chip deflector with pneumatic or inductive sensor, positioned in the chain tool changer • RH chip deflector with inductive sensor for standard electric spindle or 15 kW 5-axis electric spindle (requires device for chip deflector; requires flange for mounting units when using a 5-axis electric spindle; requires C-axis when using a standard electric spindle)Systems • Automatic lubrication system • Control unit with 5 interpolating axes Additional equipment • additional refurbished 5-axe main spindel available • Conveyor belt for removing chips and scrap pieces (chip conveyor) • Liquid cooling unit for liquid-cooled systems (can cool two electric spindles, or one electric spindle plus one liquid-cooled drilling head)Note: The technical data and descriptions are taken from the original order confirmation and are for information only; they are not binding.

Condition: as good as new (ex-display), Year of construction: 2026, CNC Machining Centers Rover Multi Up M C S Working Area*: X = 3280 mm; Y = from 1580 to 1660 mm, depending on work conditions Z = 200 mm – 5-axis machining unit and drilling unit, with vacuum modules H = 74 mm Z = 245 mm – 5-axis machining unit and drilling unit, with vacuum modules H = 29 mm Blodpfx Aoy Ehrxok Ejg Workpiece Clearance*: Y = 1900 mm Axis Travel*: X = 3706 mm; Y = 2294 mm; Z1 = 515 mm; Z2 = 371 mm VACUUM SYSTEM Subdivision of the vacuum system into 2 working zones and 2 clamping zones in X. AUXILIARY VACUUM SYSTEM – 2 zones Allows clamping of workpieces using vacuum templates. Remote Control RM850 Rover Multi Up M C S Panel – Multi Purpose Regular Configuration 2 Compatible with the turret tool magazine with 16 positions and the side tool magazine with 12 positions. The tool magazines can also be retrofitted. Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS) for machine PC. 6 ATS workpiece supports – 18 module carriers — 6 aluminium workpiece supports. The positioning of the workpiece supports is via linear guides with ball bearing slider blocks. Clamping is performed on the front and rear linear guides via pneumatic cylinders. Clamping is released by a push button located at the front of the workpiece support. — 18 module carriers, 132 x 132 x H 41.5 mm, with independent pneumatic clamping. The vacuum modules can be rotated in 15° increments on the module carriers; an ideal solution for shaped parts. — 18 covers for module carriers without template. SA (Set-Up Assistant) working table for tables up to 1550 mm. Supported manual positioning system with motion direction indicator and position indicator. — Sensors on each working table and along the X-axis of the working area. — Display of direction and position achieved for the carriage during positioning phase, mounted on each working table. According to the programmed configuration of the working tables, the system indicates the direction of movement for each working table and carriage, and confirms with a green LED and audible signal when the correct position is reached, with a tolerance of +/- 1.5 mm. Subdivision of the pneumatic system into 2 working areas in X. Machining unit with 5 interpolating axes, 13 kWp (17.4 HP), with HSK F63 adapter, liquid-cooled – 20,000 rpm Extraction hood with 12 NC-controlled positions for the 5-axis electrospindle. Flange for preparation of a 5-axis interpolating machining unit for mounting aggregates. Coolant system Additional Z-axis carrier for rear machining units, with independent Z-axis. Drilling head BH 24 L Side tool magazine with 12 positions, integrated into the machine bed. Turret tool magazine with 16 positions, installed directly on the X machining unit. HSK F63 tool adapter, equipped with a long integrated flange, for saw blades on the 5-axis head. Saw blade 300 mm, for tool holder. Hi-Tech tool set Complete set of tools for the acceptance test Consisting of the following 9 parts Replacement of standard PC with a high-performance PC. Digital device for measuring tool length up to 130 mm diameter. bSolid NC-HOPS 8 MacroCAM Rover 1. AV NC-HOPS MacroCAM 1. License WorkCenter suction cup proposal 5-Axis Simultaneous Material removal simulation 12-month warranty period Location: ex stock 54634 Bitburg - immediately available -

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2006, functionality: fully functional, Working area X: 4600 mm Working area Y: 1570 mm Working area Z: approx. 250 mm 3-axis electrospindle Vertical drilling heads: approx. 22 Horizontal drilling heads X: 6 Horizontal drilling heads Y: 4 Grooving saw blade in X direction Fixed horizontal motor for door lock mortising Bjdsy Exz Depfx Ak Ejlg Chain-type tool changer with approx. 22 positions Worktable with 8 beams Vacuum pump 90 m³/h Software: BiesseWorks Safety mats Protective safety nets Weight: approx. 6100 kg Including vacuum suction cups and 1 tiltable aggregate for drilling-routing-sawing

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008184, X axis working area: 8185 mm Bedpsyxmv Nefx Ak Eslg Y axis working area: 1550 mm Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 13 KW Number of controlled axes: 5 axes Total number of tool changer positions: 22

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008377, X axis working area: 3390 mm Y axis working area: 1570 mm Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 13 KW Number of controlled axes: 4 axes Total number of drilling spindles: 32 Blodpfxex Swb As Ak Ejg Total number of tool changer positions: 10

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 2011, functionality: unexamined, travel distance X-axis: 6,200 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,935 mm, workpiece height (max.): 250 mm, number of axes: 4, number of spindles: 40, TECHNICAL DETAILS Working area X-axis: 6,200 mm Working area Y-axis: 1,935 mm Panel thickness (edge banding unit): 14 - 60 mm Maximum panel thickness: 350 mm Number of vertical drilling spindles: 28 Number of horizontal drilling spindles in X-direction: 4 Number of horizontal drilling spindles in Y-direction: 8 Total number of drilling spindles: 40 Total number of tool changer positions: 22 Bljdpfx Aksyqzrne Esg Number of suction beam traverses: 10 Milling Unit Number of axes: 4 Motor power: 10.5 kW Automatic tool changer Edge banding unit Glue unit Tool magazine Grooving unit Number of places in tool magazine: 22 MACHINE DETAILS Main spindle power: 10.5 kW Total power: 31 kW EQUIPMENT Vacuum pump Safety grid Chip conveyor The machine is sold and delivered in its actual and legal condition ("as seen and approved") on the basis of photographic documentation and technical/commercial documents with descriptive character. The buyer has the right to inspect the goods prior to collection and assumes responsibility for installation, securing, and use of the machine at the destination. External reference: 8011

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008112, X axis working area: 3390 mm Y axis working area: 1535 mm Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 15 KW Number of controlled axes: 5 axes Total number of drilling spindles: 21 Total number of tool changer positions: 14 Bedpfew Idgvsx Ak Eelg

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2009, Travel ranges working area 1: X: 6450mm, Y: 1535mm, Z: 250mm, working area 2: X: 6200mm, Y: 1535mm, Z: 250mm, working area 3: X: 6200mm, Y: 1520mm, Z: 275mm, axis travel configuration 1: X: 6820.5mm, Y: 1963mm, Z: 350mm, axis travel configuration 2: X: 6820.5mm, Y: 1963mm, Z: 350mm, axis travel configuration 3: X: 6820.5mm, Y: 1963mm, Z: 663mm (5-axis head), Z: 350mm (additional machining units), control: Biesse XP600. Maintenance: complete C-axis was replaced in 2015 including accessories, vacuum pump was fully replaced in 2016 including bellows, hoses and additional components, in 2021 the machine was equipped with a new high-performance control PC running a current Windows 10 operating system. With extensive documentation. An on-site inspection is possible. Blodsylziijpfx Ak Esg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2009, Biesse Works Control Working range on X axis mm 3500 Working range on Y axis mm 1585 Working stroke in Z axis mm 350 N ° 2 work fields Bar worktop No. 8 adjustable bars N° 4 pneumatic Bakelite bars for lifting the panel No. 3 adjustable suction cups for each bar with vacuum seal for fixing the panel during processing No. 1 4-axis vertical electrospindle (Vektor), with automatic tool change, HSK type cones 10-position rotary tool change system on the operating head 24-position chain tool change system - located on the rear of the chain machine Drilling head with vertical and horizontal spindles composed as follows: n. 12 vertical spindles in X n. 12 vertical spindles in Y n. 6 horizontal spindles in X n. 4 horizontal spindles in Y n. 1 independent blade for making X-grooves Front protection and safety system with carpets Perimeter protection grids Chip evacuation system with motorized belt Air conditioning system for cooling and cleaning of machine control Vacuum pump 250mc/h TECHNICAL DETAILS TO BE CHECKED Blsdpfxjw D Dhae Ak Esg

Condition: used, CNC machining center BIESSE Rover C 6.50 CONF.2, year 2007 Working area: approx. 140 × 460 cm Machine dimensions: 300 × 650 cm Weight: approx. 6,100 kg Bljdpfxow Rpd So Ak Esg Two working heads Tool magazine: 22 positions Vertical drilling spindles: 28 pcs Horizontal drilling spindles: 12 pcs Price negotiable, available immediately. Price is without VAT.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, total height: 2,500 mm, total length: 11,000 mm, total width: 2,400 mm, Colour: Grey Empty weight: 7.200 kg Price: On request What are Presale Items at Second Owner? Presale items are machines that we sell in their current condition ("as-is"). We have purchased these machines based solely on photos and sell them with the information provided in the advertisement. Unfortunately, we do not have additional details, such as exact dimensions or machine specifications. Additionally, these machines are often not yet in stock and have not been inspected by us. These machines are offered at competitive prices, which means the prices are lower than usual, but the risk lies entirely with the buyer. Please carefully review the information in the advertisement before making a purchase. If you have any questions, feel free to contact us! - Year: 2007 - Documentation available: Yes - CE marking present: Yes - CE certificate present: No - Serial number: 97649 - Number of milling spindles [pcs.]: 2 - └ Milling spindle 1: Bledpfxsy Ipnte Ak Ejg - - Number of controlled axes [pcs.]: 5 - - Min. spindle speed [rpm]: 1000 - - Max. spindle speed [rpm]: 20000 - - Main motor power [kW]: 9 - └ Milling spindle 2: - - Number of controlled axes [pcs.]: 3 - - Main motor power [kW]: 18.5 - Type milling table: Beam table - Tool clamping system: HSK-F63 - Material clamp system: Pneumatic - Drilling unit present: No - Tool changer positions [pcs.]: 22 - System/software: BiesseWorks - Safety feature: Safety mat - Vacuum pump present: Yes - └ Number [pcs.]: 1 - └ Brand: Becker - └ Type: VTLF 250 - └ Year of manufacture: 2007 - └ Main motor power [kW]: 5.5 - └ Capacity [m³/h]: 250 - Tools included: No - CNC options: EPS system, Offcut conveyor, Manual control - CNC documentation available: USB stick, User keys/licenses - Table length [mm]: 6200 - Table width [mm]: 1320 - Working range X [mm]: 6200 - Working range Y [mm]: 1535 - Z-axis working range [mm]: 275 - X-axis maximum stroke [mm]: 6820 - Y-axis maximum stroke [mm]: 1963 - Transport dimensions: 11000mm x 2400mm x 2500mm (l x w x h) - Transport weight [kg]: 7200kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 1 Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Glenn Smeets

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008501, Position 1: 5 Axis CNC Routers BIESSE-ROVER A - SYNCHRO Position 2: Panel Feeding and Loading BIESSE-ROVER A - SYNCHRO Bjdpjy Af Hujfx Ak Eslg

Year of construction: 2001, condition: ready for operation (used), Biesse Rover 22 CNC machining centre Year of manufacture 2001 SN 07498 Working range 4 axes X-axis 3060 mm Y-axis 1080 mm Z-axis 155 mm 6 consoles with 18 vacuum cup holders 4 pneumatic bakelite bars for lifting the platen Vertical electrospindle 7,5 kW with automatic tool change, ISO 30 taper Automatic tool change 7 positions on the working head Drilling head with 20 spindles arranged as follows: 7 vertical in X-axis 7 vertical in Y-axis 4 horizontal in X-axis 2 horizontal in Y-axis Grooving saw 120mm Safety tread mats Blodpfx Akoggxiho Esg 110 m3 / h vacuum pump CE marked Weight 3500 Kg Technical specifications subject to change

Condition: used, Numerical Control NC 1000 Software Biesse Works Working field in X axis 3685 mm Working field in Y axis 1290 mm Working stroke in Z axis 200 mm - piece passage 70 mm FT nesting full plane worktable Automatic loading system with side lifting table N ° 1 vertical electrospindle, with automatic tool change, Automatic tool change system with 18 positions - positioned on the rear of the machine Boring head with independent spindles arranged as follows: - N ° 7 vertical in X axis - N ° 7 vertical in Y axis - N ° 2 horizontal in X axis - N ° 2 horizontal in Y axis Automatic unloading system with motorized belt Front protection and safety system with carpets and perimeter nets Automatic lubrication system Air conditioning system for the electrical panel Vacuum pumps TECHNICAL DETAILS TO BE CHECKED UPON ARRIVAL OF THE MACHINE Blodjwufv Topfx Ak Ejg

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 2000, functionality: unexamined, travel distance X-axis: 5,900 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,560 mm, feed rate X-axis: 80 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 60 m/min, rotational speed (max.): 20,000 rpm, No reserve price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! TECHNICAL DETAILS X-axis working area: 5,900 mm Y-axis working area: 1,560 mm X-axis travel speed: 80 m/min Y-axis travel speed: 60 m/min Z-axis travel speed: 25 m/min Drilling spindles Vertical drilling spindles: 20 Horizontal drilling spindles in X-direction: 6 Horizontal drilling spindles in Y-direction: 2 Total number of vertical and horizontal spindles: 28 Milling spindles Number of controlled axes: 4 Motor power: 10 kW Spindle speed: 20,000 rpm Bledpfx Akoyxm Sws Esg Tool changer Number of positions: 10 Tool: head-mounted MACHINE DETAILS Total installed power: 24 kW Control system: WINDOWS Machine programming software: WRT EQUIPMENT Work table with suction cups Number of suction bar rows: 10 Suction cups for securing the workpiece Vacuum pump The machine is sold and delivered in its actual and legal condition ('as seen and approved') on the basis of photographic documentation and descriptive technical/commercial documents. The buyer is entitled to inspect the item before collection and is responsible for installation, securing and use of the machine at the final destination. External reference: 8173

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2009, functionality: fully functional, 5-Axis Machining Center Biesse C9.50 - Beam table – Material can be clamped with suction cups or hold-down clamps Dual tool magazine configuration – highly flexible for production Top magazine – Revolver type Bottom magazine – Chain carousel (additional saw blade for HSK mounting – spindle) 8 beam tables, supports 16 kW spindle Very large aggregate/saw unit Blsdpfx Asyl Uuxjk Ejg Becker pump Year of manufacture: 2009

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2015, For sale: 4 units of CNC ROVER BIESSE 2231. Years of manufacture: 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016. In very good condition. Blodpfsx Tbk Rjx Ak Esg

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2004, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 6,170 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,395 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 180 mm, drill diameter: 35 mm, rotational speed (max.): 24,000 rpm, TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel range X-axis: 6,170 mm Travel range Y-axis: 1,395 mm Travel range Z-axis: 180 mm Spindle Main spindle power: 7.5 kW to 12 kW Max. speed: 24,000 rpm Tool holder: HSK F63 Drilling Head Vertical spindles in X-direction: 10 Vertical spindles in Y-direction: 10 Horizontal spindles in X-direction: 6 Horizontal spindles in Y-direction: 2 Max. drilling diameter: 35 mm Usable length: 45 mm Max. reach: 60 mm Tool Change System Turret tool changer capacity: 18 tools Tool holder: ISO30 / HSK F63 Max. tool diameter: 200 mm Max. tool length: 160 mm Working length: approx. 7,300 mm MACHINE DETAILS Clamping and Vacuum System Vacuum pump capacity: 90 m³/h Uniclamp clamping unit workpiece thickness: 4,098 mm Electrics Connection: 400 V / 50 Hz / 3 phases Power: 22 kW Compressed Air Connection: 3/8" Operating pressure: 6 bar Consumption: approx. 400 NL/min Extraction Connection diameter: 250 mm Air requirement: 5,300 m³/h Air velocity: 30 m/s Pressure loss: 1,500 Pa Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W): approx. 8,850 x 4,020 mm Machine weight: approx. 4,750 kg EQUIPMENT Portal design with movable processing unit 10 consoles with adjustable vacuum supports 30 adjustable support elements Multi-zone vacuum system Automatic central lubrication Chip conveyor Spindle air-blow device Pneumatic pre-installation system Bledsy Iwuhepfx Ak Esg Safety equipment according to Directive 98/37/EC CNC control (Biesse system)

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2015, functionality: fully functional, Working area X: 6,400 mm Working area Y: 1,500 mm Number of milling spindles: 1 Main motor: 13 kW Maximum rotation speed: 24,000 rpm Bjdpowlcqvjfx Ak Eolg Tool clamping system: HSK-F63 Tool change positions: 8 Vertical drilling heads: 20 Horizontal drilling units X: 4 Horizontal drilling units Y: 4 2 vacuum pumps, each 360 m³/h Nesting Remote control Software: BIESSE WORKS Overall dimensions: 11,004 × 5,334 mm Weight: 4,900 kg

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1997, 3-AXIS MACHINE FOR DRILLING AND MILLING OF CABINET FURNITURE PARTS, WITH AUTOMATIC TOOL CHANGER FOR MILLING TOOLS Working area: 2,893 x 950 mm Maximum workpiece height: 65 mm Number of workpiece supports: 6 Number of vacuum cups per support: 2 1 milling motor, 6.8 kW Clearance height between tool holder surface (motor) and top edge of vacuum cup: approx. 250 mm 2 tool changers: 3-position traveling and 4-position lateral Grooving saw fixed in X axis Number of vertical drilling spindles: 10 Number of horizontal drilling spindles: X 2 + 2, Y 1+1 Vacuum pump 100 cbm/h Controller: NC 410 Safety tread mat in front of the machine Blsdpfey Iaihox Ak Eeg

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008496, X axis working area: 5920 mm Y axis working area: DA 1580 A 1680 mm Bljdsy H Dzfepfx Ak Esg Working Table: Pod and Rail Main Electrospindle power: 16.5 KW Number of controlled axes: 5 axes Total number of drilling spindles: 23 Total number of tool changer positions: 34

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2002, number of axes: 3, total width: 1,500 mm, overall weight: 710 kg, product length (max.): 3,390 mm, This 3-axis BIESSE Rover 24S was manufactured in 2002. It features a length of 3390 mm and an overall width of 1500 mm, with a conveyor speed ranging from 28 to 140 m/min. The machine has a weight of 710 kg and is equipped with a powerful 1.1 kW motor. If you are looking to get high-quality CNC processing capabilities, consider the BIESSE Rover 24S machine we have for sale. Contact us for further details. Bledpfxsy E Nyds Ak Eog • Overall width: 1500 mm • Conveyor height: 890 + 940 mm • Conveyor speed: 28–140 m/min • Conveyor drive motor: 0.75 kW • Exhaust fan duty: 5,500 m³/h • Motor: 1.1 kW • Minimum working length: 700 mm • Compressed air connection: 1/2" • Compressed air consumption: tab. 1 • Electric power supply cable section: 4 x 1.5