Used Biesse Panel Saws Biesse Selco Wn2 2022 for sale (17,809)

Condition: good (used), Code: 0343 Brand: PUTSCH MENICONI Model: SVP 950-M - CE Standard Manual vertical panel saw for carpentry workshops, for vertical and horizontal cutting of panels, semi-finished products, furniture, doors, window frames, plastics and composite materials - CE Standard Technical data: Dsdpfxoyxc Tko Aahekp Cutting length 5300 mm Cutting height 2200 mm Max cutting thickness 80 mm Motor power 7,5 Hp Blade diameter 300 mm Blade speed 5000 rpm Automatic electric sliding table to prevent damage to the support strips during horizontal cuts Small parts support device Liftable castor device for panel sliding Overall dimensions of assembled machine: mm 6500 x 1500 x 3000 h Overall dimensions for transport: Frame mm 6500 x 600 x 2350 h - Weight kg 590 + Column mm 3100 x 1130 x 1150 h - Weight kg 600

Condition: good (used), Code: 0395 Brand: JOWAY - TAIWAN Model: P - 3200 TA - CE Standard Panel saw with tilting blade and scoring unit for precise cutting of panels, furniture, doors, window and door frames, kitchens, plastics, composite materials and various – CE Standard Technical data: Anodised aluminium caqrriage length 3200 mm Dimensions of ground steel table mm 620 x 1000 Blade diameter 350 mm Hole 30 Max cutting height at 90° mm 100 Max cutting height at 45° mm 70 Motor power 7,5 Hp Speed rpm 3000/4000/5000/6000 Scoring unit blade diameter 120 mm Hole 22 - Motor power 1 Hp Dual control panel for machine start-up Electric blade lifting Programmed blade tilt Dkedpfx Aaezaawnjhop Electrically adjustable scoring unit Parallelogram blade guard Overall dimensions of assembled machine mm 3200 x 3400 x 1400 h Overall dimensions for transport mm 3200 x 2100 x 1400 h Weight kg 1300

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2023, functionality: fully functional, Cutting area: 5600x5600 mm 1x Gabbiani G 3 130 (56) - High-performance panel dividing saw 1x Compact label printer 1x "eye-M EVO" control console 1x Human-Machine Interface (HMI) software MAESTRO ACTIVE 1x Maestro pattern 1x High-performance fixed air cushion table with guide, 2500x600 mm, with infeed rollers 3x High-performance movable air cushion table - 2500x600 mm, with infeed rollers 1x Double-sided automatic lateral aligner with motor drive 1x Foot switch for START/STOP of the work cycle 1x Set-up for grooving with height adjustment of the saw blade via the control system 1x "Autosetting" device on the saw carriage for the cutting length/width 1x Main saw blade motor 25 HP (18 kW) 50 Hz with star-delta starter 1x Quick-change system for saw blades with mechanical flanges "AKE" 1x Selective clamping device (area 0 - 1600 mm) 3x Additional double clamping device 4x Additional clamping device with single finger 1x Compact Office label printer 1x Cut editor 1x Maestro optiwise - Advanced - N. 1 license 1x Maestro connect: Service agreement for 1 year (including "plug&play" gateway kit) 1x Base 1x MACHINE LANGUAGE: German 1x PC LANGUAGE: German 1x SPEC01 Special design 01 1x European safety regulations (CE marking) incl. 123 hours of on-site commissioning (within Germany) (daily working hours are 8 hours including travel time). incl. 1 day of online training MAESTRO OPTIWISE PRO (as needed) incl. MAESTRO CONNECT 1 year incl. MAESTRO PATTERN IMPORT (255€ free of charge) !!! FULL MANUFACTURER WARRANTY !!! FULL MANUFACTURER WARRANTY IN THE FIRST YEAR !!! !!! Due to customer insolvency, available at a reduced price !!! Available at a very favorable price due to customer insolvency. !!! !!! List price was at 270,000€ !!! LIST PRICE of the machine was 270,000€ !!! Dkodpfsxlvktox Aahop

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, cutting height (max.): 135 mm, cutting width (max.): 1,400 mm, saw blade diameter: 450 mm, tilt adjustment saw blade: 45 °, height adjustment type: mechanical, saw blade bore: 30 mm, actuation type: electric, rotational speed (max.): 6,000 rpm, rotational speed (min.): 3,500 rpm, total length: 3,500 mm, total width: 2,300 mm, total height: 1,500 mm, overall weight: 1,300 kg, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, saw blade guard, – manufactured in Poland – feeding the trolley on steel bars – year of manufacture: 2008 – technical documentation, CE marking TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS: – blade diameter: 300 – 450 mm – scoring blade diameter: 120 mm – max. cutting height: 135 mm – cutting width from the right side: 1400 mm – trolley length: 3000 mm – blade angle adjustment: 0-45° – cutting height adjustment – main motor: 6 kW – scoring blade motor: 0.75 kW – scoring blade spindle diameter: 20 mm – main blade spindle diameter: 30 mm – adjustable blade speed: 3500 / 4500 / 6000 RPM – scoring blade rotational speed: 8000 RPM Djdpfx Aey Ux Ipsahjkp – nozzle diameter: 80 mm and 120 mm – fence with two pawls: 1900 / 3200 mm – extendable side trolley attachment: 700 mm – transport dimensions (L/W/H): 350 / 230 / 160 cm – weight: ~ 1300 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, cutting height (max.): 125 mm, cutting width (max.): 4,300 mm, cutting length (max.): 2,200 mm, table length: 2,500 mm, table width: 1,000 mm, No minimum price – guaranteed sale to the highest bidder! The machine must be collected between June 10, 2026, and June 30, 2026! TECHNICAL DETAILS Maximum plate width: 4,300 mm Maximum plate length: 2,200 mm Maximum saw blade overhang: 125 mm Dkodpfx Aaoy Ur Dqshep Number of grippers: 10 Number of work tables: 4 MACHINE DETAILS Programming software: CADMATIC 4 Control system: WINDOWS XP EQUIPMENT Swiveling unit Lift table Roller feed table Lift table (manufacturer: LAWECO, dimensions: 1,000 x 2,500 mm) Barcode label printer (model: ZEBRA ZT231) Scoring unit The machine is sold and delivered in its actual and legal condition ("as is, where is") based on photo documentation and technical/commercial documents with a descriptive character. The buyer has the right to inspect the goods before collection and assumes responsibility for the installation, securing, and use of the machine at its destination. External reference: 8524

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2022, • Cutting height 2200 mm x cutting length 4300 mm • Extraction to CE TRK Regulations CH 2200 (less than 2 mg of fine dust/m³ air) • Middle workpiece support - 4 zones • Sliding carriage 1255 for cutting height 2200 mm • Saw unit 4,0 kW, 5400 min-1, 400 V, 50 Hz incl. HW-saw blade Ø 250 x 30 x 3,2 mm, Z 48, Hohl-Dachzahn • Length stop (manual) with digital read out for vertical cuts. For middle workpiece support • Digital display for horizontal cuts at the control panel incl. electrical fine adjustment Dkedpfxjy Nmtcj Aahsp • 3 adjustable stop points in the saw beam for repeating horizontal cuts via stop point • Strip stop for repeating horizontal cuts, Scale in mm, max. strip height 650 mm • Narrow part device (2 pcs) Avoids tilting of workpieces • Super Cut scoring device: For scoring the surface of covered materials. • Cutting optimization Opti-Base V-Cut 1 pc 10ˇTouch-screen 1 pc Software machine 1 pc Software office- 1 place floating network license (Opti V-Base) 1 pc label printer • Specifications are provided for information only. This machine is offered for sale on behalf of a customer. Viewing is available by prior arrangement. Please contact us through the platform's messaging system for further information and the relevant technical contact details.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2017, functionality: fully functional, operating hours: 2,689 h, Panel dividing saw Manufacturer Mayer Type PS2 Z Year of manufacture: 2017 Working length: 6500 mm Working width: 6000 mm Dkjdpfezbt Uijx Aahsp Thickness: 100 mm Motor: 35 kW With control system Feed rate: 5-80 m/min Return speed: 120 m/min Max. saw blade diameter: 550 mm with 130 mm overhang

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008502, Max. panel width: 3800 mm Dsdpfxjy Edp He Aahskp Max. panel length: 3800 mm Main saw blade projection: 115 mm No of Grippers: 11

Condition: good (used), Code: 0353 Brand: SCM Model: SIGMA 85 KC - CE Standard Electronic horizontal panel saw with clamps for precise cutting of panels, suitable for joinery, furniture, custom made furniture, doors, kitchens, plastics, composite materials and various – CE Standard Technical data: Cutting length 3200 mm Cutting width 3200 mm Blade projection 85 mm Blade carriage feed speed 6–30 mt/min N°7 panel clamps to ensure the pack is held securely in place Main blade diameter 350 mm Hole 80 Main blade motor 11 Kw Main rotation speed 3900 rpm Scoring unit diameter 160 mm - Hole 55 – Motor 1,5 kW Automatic aligner: ensures precision during cross-cuts, reducing processing times N°3 front panel support surfaces Suction inlet diameters: n° 2 diameter 120 - n° 1 diameter 150 Compressed air 7-8 bar Overall dimensions of assembled machine mm 5700 x 4350 x 1700 h Dksdpfxey A Svpj Aahsp Weight kg 3300

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2022, functionality: fully functional, power: 3 kW (4.08 HP), input voltage: 400 V, type of input current: three-phase, cutting height (max.): 2,200 mm, cutting width (max.): 4,100 mm, saw blade diameter: 250 mm, height adjustment type: pneumatic, actuation type: pneumatic, total length: 4,100 mm, total height: 2,200 mm, overall weight: 700 kg, Equipment: CE marking, scorer, Available from the last week of August. We are offering this very well-maintained Holzkraft VPS 2241 VR ED vertical panel saw, manufactured in 2022. The machine was installed and put into operation at our facility in May 2023. Holzkraft VPS 2241 VR ED – vertical panel saw (commissioned in 2023, excellent condition) The machine is connected and can be tested. Selling my vertical panel saw, Holzkraft VPS 2241 VR ED, purchased and assembled new in 2023, and therefore in very good condition. Selling due to expansion. Features & Highlights: • Scoring device for clean, tear-free cuts • Digital measuring displays (horizontal & vertical) • Panel positioning on movable rollers (no lifting required) • Pneumatic locking of the saw carriage • Vertical/horizontal switching • Robust, torsion-resistant machine frame • Integrated dust extraction for direct connection to a dust extraction system The machine runs perfectly, no defects. Technical Data: • Cutting length: 4100 mm • Cutting height: 2200 mm • Cutting depth: 60 mm Dedpfx Aaoyxv T Rshjkp • Saw blade: Ø 250 mm • Motor: 3 kW / 400 V • Weight: approx. 700 kg Condition: • Year of manufacture 2022 / Installation: 2023 • Low usage • Ready for immediate use If you have any questions or require more information, please send us a message or call us.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, cutting width (max.): 1,250 mm, saw blade diameter: 315 mm, tilt adjustment saw blade: 45 °, height adjustment type: mechanical, saw blade bore: 30 mm, actuation type: electric, cutting length (max.): 3,000 mm, cutting height with scoring (max.): 40 mm, cutting width at rip fence: 1,250 mm, trimming length: 3,000 mm, Equipment: saw blade guard, - Austrian-made - With scorer TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS: Djdpfx Asxm Rm Seahokp - Table carriage length: 3000 mm - Max. main blade diameter (without scorer): 315 mm - Max. main blade diameter (with scorer): 250 mm - Blade bore diameter: 30 mm - Max. cutting height with 250 mm blade: 40 mm - Spindle lock - Main blade adjustable up/down and at an angle - Blade guard - With carriage - Cutting width at the fence: 1250 mm - Main motor: 4 kW - Fence with latch: 1700 / 2600 mm - Scorer - Max. scorer blade diameter: 80 mm - Scorer spindle diameter: 20 mm - Scorer motor: 0.65 kW - Extraction port diameter: 100 mm - Shipping dimensions (L/W/H): 325 / 190 / 130 cm - Weight: 500 kg

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2005, functionality: fully functional, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, cutting height (max.): 104 mm, cutting width (max.): 1,250 mm, saw blade diameter: 315 mm, tilt adjustment saw blade: 45 °, height adjustment type: mechanical, saw blade bore: 30 mm, actuation type: electric, total length: 3,200 mm, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, saw blade guard, – Austrian production – year of production: 2005 – X-Roll carriage guide system – Operation manual DTR and CE TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS: – Carriage length: 2800 mm – Cutting width (right side): 1250 mm Dksdpfey Awwlox Aahsp – Main blade diameter: max. 315 mm – Scoring unit diameter: 100 mm – Main motor: 4 kW – Scoring motor: 0.75 kW – Brake – X-Roll carriage guide system – Cutting height adjustment – Manual angle adjustment: 0° - 45° – Max. cutting height: 104 mm – Option for installing milling cutter, thickness: 6 - 20 mm – Max. diameter: 180 mm – Pawl – Moving guard – Dimensions (L/W/H): 300 / 195 / 170 cm – Weight: approx. 700 kg

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2000, Sawblade tiltable +/- 45 ° Length of the rolling table 2800 mm cutting width 1440 mm Motor output 7,5 kW Cutting height 150 mm Dksdpfx Aaoxcg Hgshop Saw blade diameter 450 mm weight of the machine ca. 1200 kg range L-W-H 3,2 x 3,4 x 1,7 mm

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2007, machine/vehicle number: 5012 EX, functionality: fully functional, cutting width (max.): 3,300 mm, saw blade diameter: 250 mm, total length: 4,200 mm, total width: 1,200 mm, overall weight: 485 kg, TECHNICAL DETAILS Maximum cutting height (horizontal): 1,550 mm Maximum cutting width: 3,300 mm Maximum cutting depth: 55 mm Saw blade diameter: 250 mm Arbor bore for saw blade diameter: 30 mm MACHINE DETAILS Voltage: 400 V Fuse: 16 A Power: 3.0 kW Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 4,200 x 1,200 x 2,450 mm Shipping weight: 485 kg Dkedoy Tu Dqspfx Aahjp Shipping packages: 1 unit EQUIPMENT CE marking Vertical & horizontal cutting

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2016, total length: 4,200 mm, total width: 1,200 mm, total height: 2,450 mm, Colour: Grey Weight: 550 kg - Year: 2016 - Documentation available: No - CE marking present: Yes - CE certificate present: No - Serial number: 5021 BE Dksdpfey Tli Dex Aahop - Max. cutting height horizontal [mm]: 1550 - Max. cutting width [mm]: 3300 - Max. cutting depth [mm]: 55 - Min. saw blade diameter [mm]: 250 - Max. saw blade diameter [mm]: 250 - Arbor saw blade diameter [mm]: 30 - Horizontal cutting: Yes - Vertical cutting: Yes - Voltage [V]: 400 - Current consumption [A]: 6.6 - Fuse [A]: 16 - Power [kW]: 3.0 - Transport dimensions: 4200mm x 1200mm x 2450mm (l x w x h) - Transport weight [kg]: 550kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 1 Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Yorick Diebels

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, SCM si12 panel saw Specifications: • Condition – used, after a comprehensive inspection • Manufacturer – SCM • Model – si 12 • Carriage length – 150 cm • Diameter of installed saw blade – 300 mm • Main saw motor – 3.0 kW • Saw blade can be tilted manually • Manual raising and lowering of the saw blade • Max cutting height – approx. 90 mm • Side table, dimensions: 85 x 60 cm • Dust extraction port – 100 mm diameter Djdeza Hi Repfx Aahskp • Weight – approx. 450 kg • Overall dimensions: 350 x 150 x 100 cm (width x length x height) • Dimensions for transport: 90 x 150 x 100 cm (width x length x height) Additional information: • The machine is in good technical condition and ready for immediate use. • The photos show the actual condition of the item being sold. • It is possible to turn on and inspect the machine on-site. • Free training on how to operate the machine is provided (at the company's premises). • The price listed in the auction does not include VAT and transport costs. Financing and transport: • We arrange transport using our MDD fleet, courier companies, or external carriers. • We offer financial support in the form of leasing or a leasing loan.

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, power: 11 kW (14.96 HP), cutting height (max.): 115 mm, cutting width (max.): 4,200 mm, height adjustment type: electric, SCHEER PA 7004 – 4200 x 4681 mm LIKE-NEW panel dividing system DIRECTLY FROM THE MANUFACTURER with lifting table, optimization software, and new PC control LIKE-NEW 1 year warranty For sale is a fully overhauled SCHEER PA 7004 panel dividing system with a processing capacity of 4200 x 4681 mm. The system has been technically and visually refurbished and features a new industrial PC with a Linux operating system, network connectivity, and remote maintenance capabilities. Ideally suited for industrial carpentry workshops, furniture manufacturers, interior design companies, and panel processing companies that value precision, performance, and high availability. Equipment and highlights: New PC control New industrial PC with Linux operating system Network connectivity (LAN/WLAN) TeamViewer remote maintenance USB interfaces Graphical cutting plan display Multilingual user interface 15" flat screen in the swiveling control panel Optionally available with label printing system Panel saw FM 22-4200 Hardened guides Servo-driven saw unit Feed speed 2–70 m/min Return speed up to 100 m/min Automatic lowering of the saw unit Main saw 11 kW Scoring saw 2.2 kW Automatic cut height adjustment Cut-off device Lamella protection curtain Safety guard locking Workpiece clamping protection Technical data: Cutting length: 4,200 mm Fence depth: 4,681 mm Cutting height: 115 mm Fully automatic angle pressing device For precise cross cuts with automatic workpiece fixing. Material feed table HP 5100 Servo-driven material pusher 2 top guides Rack and pinion guide 7 retractable clamping fingers 3 controlled extraction bolts 11 triple roller tracks Feed speed 25 m/min Return speed 50 m/min Four-spindle lifting table TE 5085 Table length 4,200 mm Table depth 2,800 mm Lifting height 640 mm Lowering height 280 mm Motor-driven roller tracks Right and left operation Recesses for rear loading Automatic alignment systems Longitudinal alignment WP 5038 Double execution Dodpeza Efwofx Aahekp Two motor-driven alignment fingers For panel lengths up to 4,800 mm Cross alignment WP 5037 3 pneumatic stop and alignment cylinders Integrated braking system Workpiece support Angle stop table HP 5094 2 workpiece support tables HP 5095 Air cushion system LK 5161 Radial fan and piping system included Optimization software OPTIMIN The system features the proven OPTIMIN cutting plan optimization. Bills of materials are entered directly into the machine, automatically optimized, and immediately made available for processing. Advantages: Material savings Shorter processing times Optimal utilization of the system Easy operation Additional equipment: Powered roller track on the right Set of carbide saw blades Operating manual Hardware key for optimization software Conclusion A powerful and extensively equipped panel dividing system with modernized control technology, automatic alignment, lifting table, and optimization software. The machine has been completely overhauled and is ready for immediate use. ✓ LIKE-NEW ✓ New industrial PC with Linux ✓ Network compatible & TeamViewer ✓ Optimization software OPTIMIN ✓ 1 year warranty

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1984, used Make Holz-Her Dedpfovwgi Ijx Aahokp Type 1215 Year of manufacture 1984 Motor 4.0 kW Cutting length approx. 5300 mm Cutting height approx. 2200 mm Center support Saw blade diameter approx. 300 mm, cutting depth 80 mm Free-standing Slatted frame moves away Storage location 97447 Gerolzhofen, free loading, unpacked Handed over in the current condition as viewed, without guarantee or warranty

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2001, functionality: fully functional, We offer this Giben KG.8250 slab bandsaw, ready for use, manufactured in 2001. Manufacturer: Giben Model: KG.8250 Year of manufacture: 2001 Condition: ready for use Identification category: 1426 Identification type: 844 Machine type: slab bandsaw If you have any questions or require further information, please do not hesitate to send us a message or call us. Dsdpfezaiwdsx Aahekp

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2002, Sawblade tiltable 46 ° Length of the rolling table ~ 3.200 mm cutting width ~ 1.100 mm Dedpfx Aaoy Spv Eshokp Cutting height max. 170 mm Saw blade diameter max 500 mm Motor output 5,5 kW Scoring unit 0,75 kW Martin T 73 Classic sliding table saw for precise cutting of solid wood, panel materials and coated materials with swivel saw blade and scorer. The machine enables precise rip, cross and mitre cuts and is designed for daily use in professional woodworking. Includes a comprehensive range of saw blades.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1987, machine/vehicle number: 15957, functionality: fully functional, input frequency: 50 Hz, saw blade diameter: 300 mm, saw blade bore: 30 mm, rotational speed (min.): 4,750 rpm, total length: 6,300 mm, total width: 1,230 mm, total height: 2,860 mm, feed length X-axis: 6,000 mm, feed length Y-axis: 2,100 mm, feed length Z-axis: 60 mm, main saw diameter: 300 mm, space requirement height: 250 mm, space requirement length: 7,000 mm, space requirement width: 1,000 mm, max. cutting width: 5300 mm, max. cutting height: 2200 mm, saw blade diameter: 300 mm, max. processing thickness: 80 mm, saw blade bore: 30 mm, lower support: lockable rollers, saw head tilting: manual, saw feed: automatic, extraction: external extraction, weight approx.: 1500 kg, motor power: 7.5 kW. Manual or automatic feed 11/17/22/33 m/min, Digitron, digital measuring system horizontal and vertical. Intermediate support throughout the entire frame length. Dedpfxjxpqh Io Aahjkp

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2019, machine/vehicle number: 432.09.257.19, functionality: fully functional, power: 5.5 kW (7.48 HP), input voltage: 400 V, input current: 11 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, cutting height (max.): 133 mm, cutting width (max.): 800 mm, saw blade diameter: 400 mm, tilt adjustment saw blade: 45 °, height adjustment type: electric, saw blade bore: 30 mm, actuation type: electric, rotational speed (max.): 5,500 rpm, rotational speed (min.): 3,500 rpm, year of last overhaul: 2022, Equipment: CE marking, documentation/manual, very well maintained, still in daily use. Dkjdpfxoy Ucp Rj Aahop

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2002, functionality: fully functional, cutting height (max.): 2,150 mm, cutting width (max.): 5,300 mm, total length: 5,510 mm, overall weight: 950 kg, Equipment: CE marking, TECHNICAL DETAILS Maximum cutting height (vertical): 2,150 mm Maximum cutting height (horizontal): 2,070 mm Dkodpfjy Nxwtjx Aahep Maximum cutting width: 5,300 mm Maximum cutting depth: 80 mm Minimum saw blade diameter: 300 mm Maximum saw blade diameter: 300 mm MACHINE DETAILS Voltage: 400 V Power consumption: 8 A Fuse: 16 A Power: 4.0 kW Dimensions & Weight Dimensions (L x W x H): 5,510 x 1,720 x 2,920 mm Weight: 950 kg Transport packages: 1 EQUIPMENT CE marking Horizontal cutting Vertical cutting

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 005711, Max. panel width: 4500 mm Dodpfx Aaoy Nk Dfjhjkp Max. panel length: 2200 mm Main saw blade projection: 95 mm No of Rip saw Grippers: 5 No of Cross Cut Grippers: 8 Second flexible pusher: yes

Condition: used, machine/vehicle number: 008021, Max. panel width: 4300 mm Max. panel length: 2200 mm Main saw blade projection: 125 mm Dksdpfjy Nkygsx Aahsp No of Grippers: 11 Panel Rotation Station: yes Thin sheet loading: yes Vacuum sheet loading: yes