Used Vogamakina Paint Finishing System for sale (41,607)

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, DESIGN VFDK powder booths are designed as an open wall cartridge filtered for manual powder coating use from one side. Powder booths are manufactured of externally powder coated sheet metal structure with castor wheels at the ground. The system consists of filtration system with automatic cleaning, ventilation and electrical control panel. Long lasting 100% polyester cartridge filters are used for high efficiency. WORKING PRINCIPLE Air flow generated by the extraction fan carries overspray powder coating particles to the filter unit and collects them at the outer surface of the filters. Filters are cleaned by pulse valve operated pull-reverse system during the operation. Powder coatings accumulated by this way at the ground of powder booth are collected manually in the drawer and can be reused after sieving. A hopper with vibrated sieve can be added optionally for powder recycling. ADVANTAGES Pgjdpfxjvv H Hde Ak Hjr Saves space in the workshop Easy and fast cleaning Made in Türkiye CE Mark We offer the best technical solutions and competitive prices Contact us for more information and quotations

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2001, functionality: fully functional, Nagel Foldnak 8+ Nagel Trimmer Brochure capacity up to 100 pages (80 g/m² paper) Paper formats DIN A5, A4, A3, A3+, SRA3 (and any intermediate format) Brochure formats DIN A4, A5, A6 (and any intermediate format) Cover stock up to approximately 300 g/m² 2 stitching heads, 2 with magazine control No adjustment required for paper thickness Stitching head positions in mm: 30 x 50 x 80 x 50 x 30 Staple clincher (movable clinchers) Staple types: Ring staples Ri 26/6 Staples: 26/6, 26/8, 26/8S Production output up to 2,000 brochures/hour Sheet stacker, electric, adjustable lift Block stitching, on-line, up to 40 sheets Front trimmer The compression station before trimming ensures flat-lying brochures with a sharp fold; overhead conveyor belts ensure secure paper transport, even for thick booklets; adjustable belt feed ensures accurate alignment against the stop, even with booklets that are fed in at an angle; format change in 30 seconds. Brochure capacity up to 100 pages (80 g/m² paper) Brochure formats A4, A5, A6 (and any intermediate format), min 10 cm Pgjdpfx Aozwxk Hek Her Production output up to 2,000 brochures/hour Connection: 230 V, 50 Hz, 600 W

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2003, Brochure capacity up to 100 pages (80 g/m²) Paper formats DIN A5, A4, A3, A3+, SRA3 (and any intermediate format) Brochure formats DIN A4, A5, A6 (and any intermediate format) Podpfxezwm Uas Ak Hegr Cover Cardboard up to approx. 300 g/m² Stapling heads 2 standard, maximum 4, with magazine control, no adjustment required for paper thickness Stapling head positions 30 x 50 x 80 x 50 x 30 mm Staple clincher Clincher (movable clinchers) Staple types Ring staples Ri26/6, booklet staples 26/6, 26/8, 26/8S Performance up to 2,000 brochures/hour Feeder electric, adjustable lift Block stitching On-line, up to 40 sheets Motor power 300 watts Connection values 240 V, 50 Hz, 1~ Dimensions H x W x D in mm 870 x 610 x 1270 (560 with feeder folded up) Weight 109 kg NAGEL trimmer Front cutter with compression station

Condition: good (used), overall weight: 160 kg, The BookMaster brochure-making machine and the TrimMaster front cutter combine maximum performance with cost-effectiveness. They are easy to operate and require minimal maintenance, making them the most advanced, user-friendly, and reliable saddle-stitch brochure-making machines on the market. The BookMaster features a unique stitching mechanism that ensures virtually maintenance-free operation. The most important wear parts are contained in the stitching head cassette and are replaced every 5,000 cycles during cassette changes. This allows for over one million cycles before servicing of the stitching head is required. The BookMaster has a manual adjustment feature for adapting page margins, end sheets, and stitching/folding positions. The TrimMaster cutting unit has a single, self-sharpening blade made of hardened steel for clean trimming of the book's front edge. All cutting waste is transported outside the machine to an external waste container, which allows for continuous operation. The finished brochures are transported to a high-performance discharge conveyor. Additional information: Max sheet format: 482 x 320 mm Min sheet format: 210 x 140 mm Max brochure thickness: 22 sheets Max cutting length: 25 mm 230 volts. Shipping possible, pickup possible, test run possible. Pedpoy Idr Hjfx Ak Hsgr Operating manual is also included.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2009, Painting system The system consists of: SORBINI Smartcoater SP1 paint roller coating machine, year of manufacture 2009, approximately 3000 operating hours Roller coating and puttying machine Technical data - Working speed: 5-20 m/min - Workpiece width: max. 1350 mm - Workpiece thickness: max. 100 mm UV lamp control cabinet UV lamps SUPERFICI Model 2UVPLUS65, year of manufacture 1998, on a VENJAKOB conveyor belt, year of manufacture 1998, average number of operating hours 8500 Working area 1.5 - 7.5 m/min. Max. element width 1300 mm Dimensions (length x width) Lamps with conveyor belt: 5100 mm x 1700 mm (+ 600 mm motors) Rollers: 2200 mm x 2900 mm Podpfxjzuzrho Ak Hegr Control cabinet for UV lamp: 2000 mm x 800 mm Note: The technical data and descriptions are a copy of the original order confirmation. The data is for informational purposes only and is not binding.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1990, Paint/coating application system Manufacturer: Bürkle Type: DAL 1 1300 Year of manufacture: 1990 Pgedpozuzqdjfx Ak Hor Note: The technical data and descriptions are transcriptions from the original order confirmation. The data is for informational purposes only and is not binding.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2009, Horizon brochure production system Horizon VAC 100 a, VAC 100m collating machine Number of stations: 2 x 10 Maximum format: 500 x 350 mm Minimum format: 148 x 120 mm Loading capacity: 55 mm per station Speed: max. 9,500 cycles/h Weight: 320 kg per tower Pgedpfjyhzubjx Ak Her Machine dimensions: 810 x 652 x 1,961 mm Power supply: 230 V, 10.6 A, 2.3 kW SPF 200A booklet folding station Input format (4-page sheets): min. 180 x 105 mm, max. 508 x 356 mm Finished booklet format: min. 85 x 105 mm, max. 250 x 356 mm Booklet thickness: max. 25 sheets, 100 pages Speed: up to 4,800 cycles/h Weight: 782 kg (with front cutter FC-200A) Machine dimensions: 3,450 x 810 x 1,250 mm (L x W x H) Power supply: 230 V, 5.3 A; 1.0 kW Trimmer FC 200A Available from 05/2026

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, machine/vehicle number: 1003000009, Complete and fully automatic finishing line for producing books, magazines, catalogues, etc. 10-station vacuum belt feed collator (including air separation) with an inline DBM-350 booklet maker, featuring wire stitching, folding, and trimming, as well as a square fold unit (Auto Spinemaster) with a stacker delivery on top of the machine. Includes an online jogger. Digital operation panel with touch control. All safety features included. 230 V, 1 Ph, 50/60 Hz. Min./max. paper size: 120 x 148 / 350 x 500 mm Paper weight: 40 – 300 gsm Speed: 5,000 – 10,000 sets/hr. Psdpjztauxefx Ak Hjgr

Condition: excellent (used), Sold with special "warehouse clean" discount price! Pedpfx Aox U Tkrok Hegr Duplo iSaddle Digital bookletmaker DSF-2200 Sheet Feeder DBMS-F2 DBMS-S DBMS-T DKT-200 DKT-LS Spinemaster

Year of construction: 2019, condition: ready for operation (used), A complete painting system on two levels for engine manufacturing including all necessary aggregates and components is available. Workpiece carriers in the system: 118, cycle time: approx. 49s, complete throughput time: 97min, max. production capacity with 3 shifts: 258000/year, overall system dimensions X/Y: approx. 26000mm/9000mm. 1) Adsorption dryer. 2) Steam humidifier Carel. 3) Two- and three-stage filter boxes. 4) Compressor technology. 5) Air dryer Hygrex. 6) Robot with control cabinet and spray gun. 7) Paint dosing pump. 8) Paint preparation and cleaning. 9) Osmosis system. This is a complete painting system using a robot from cleaning to the drying process. Documentation available. An on-site inspection is possible. Pgjdpfx Akeytgpqj Hjr

Condition: ready for operation (used), Gross volume: 120l, max. swivel element: 2560mm, diameter working container: 640mm, discharge height screening machine: 880mm, connected load: 11kW, drive power rotary table 4kW, length: 2620mm, width: 2620mm, height: 2320mm. An on-site inspection is possible. Pedpfoy E S Evex Ak Hjgr

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2009, functionality: fully functional, total width: 4,300 mm, total length: 3,700 mm, total height: 3,000 mm, Description For sale is a Tonello Laser Blaze 250 industrial laser finishing system, offered as a complete enclosed workstation. This high-performance system is specifically designed for laser-based garment finishing, enabling precise and repeatable effects such as denim fading, whiskering, engraving, and decorative surface treatments. The Laser Blaze series by Tonello S.r.l. is widely recognized in industrial denim production, offering a modern and sustainable alternative to traditional manual processes. The system utilizes a Rofin CO₂ laser source, known for its precision, stability, and reliability in continuous production environments. This unit replaces labor-intensive finishing methods such as hand-scraping, sandblasting, and chemical spraying, significantly improving consistency, efficiency, and environmental impact. The machine has been used in a professional garment factory environment and has been tested in operation with video documentation (March 2026). Recently serviced on 27.02.2026. Includes • Tonello Laser Blaze 250 enclosed laser cabin • Integrated laser processing unit • Computer workstation with control system • Electrical cabinets • Cooling unit (MTA) • Ventilation / exhaust connections • Operator control panel and integrated safety system Technical Details • Manufacturer: Tonello S.r.l., Italy • Model: Laser Blaze 250 • Laser source: Rofin CO₂ • Year: 2009 • Power: approx. 30 kW system • Voltage: 400V, 3-phase • Work area: approx. up to 150 × 150 cm • Application: Denim laser finishing and garment treatment Key Features Pgsdpjy Ai Ehefx Ak Hjr • High-precision CO₂ laser technology for consistent results • Advanced control via Tonello CREA software • Capability for both flat and 3D (mannequin-based) processing • 360° garment effects without flat-pattern limitations • Double-position workflow for improved productivity • Fully enclosed workstation with integrated safety systems Technical Capabilities • Denim distressing (whiskers, chevrons, worn effects) • Laser engraving of logos, graphics, and textures • Photorealistic surface patterning • Multi-material capability (denim, leather, technical textiles) • High repeatability – identical results from first to last garment Sustainability Benefits • Eliminates need for sandblasting and manual abrasion • Reduces water and chemical consumption significantly • Lower energy usage compared to traditional laundry processes • Improves worker safety and production cleanliness Condition Used industrial condition. Machine is complete and was operational prior to factory shutdown. Tested and video recorded in operation (05–06.03.2026). Recently serviced (27.02.2026). Typical signs of use from production environment. Inspection possible prior to dismantling. Sold as-is, where-is, without warranty. Typical Applications • Denim laser fading and whiskering • Garment engraving and marking • Decorative textile finishing • Replacement for manual sandblasting processes Location: Valga, Estonia Removal & transport: Buyer responsible for dismantling, loading, and transport. Professional dismantling strongly recommended due to system size and complexity.

Condition: like new (used), overall weight: 277 kg, total width: 650 mm, total length: 1,940 mm, total height: 1,050 mm, input voltage: 220 V, Plockmatic PBM 500 including (SquareFold) BookFold Module and Trimmer Module. This booklet maker is in very good, lightly used condition! This machine can be used in an offline configuration as shown, or the machine can be connected to a Ricoh Pro 8100/8200 - C7100/C7200 - C9100/C9200 Series machine. Counter readings: PBM 500: 20,938 Pgsdjzpybdopfx Ak Hjr BookFold Module: 19,511 Trimmer Module: 20,065 - Creates professional booklets inline or offline with stapling and folding. - Capacity: up to 50 sheets of paper (80 gsm) for folded booklets of approximately 140 pages. - Supported paper sizes: width from approx. 206 mm to 320 mm, length up to approx. 457 mm. - Compatible with A and B formats and many custom formats. Are you looking for other options for the machine? We are flexible and can configure the machine to your specifications! This machine has been inspected and thoroughly tested by our own specialized technical service department. If you would like further information, please do not hesitate to contact us. Worldwide shipping is possible.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2010, functionality: fully functional, STC-Ref:G-791-0205 Plockmatic 61 Pro ,Year: 2010 equipped with: - brochure finisher Plockmatic 61 Pro - brochure fomat A4 + A5 Pgjdpfxozrzz Rj Ak Hor - 2 stitching heads - Folder/press folder

Condition: excellent (used), Bookletmaker BM 500: Booklet and folding unit for sheet formats from 206 x 210 mm (min.) to 320 x 620 mm (max.). Processes up to 50 sheets. Two high-quality flat-wire stitching heads (5,000 staples per magazine) for consistently high quality. Includes trimmer and BF unit with electric shingle feeder. Pgjdozrh Ukjpfx Ak Hsr

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2006, functionality: fully functional, BDF Bourg document finishing system with manual feed for collated sets. Machine serviced, conveyor belts replaced, in excellent condition! Stapling-folding-trimming 2 stapling heads from wire coil Functions for saddle stitching, block stitching, and corner stitching Fully automatic format adjustment! Electrical connection 230V/50Hz, 400kg Includes 4 wire coils Pgjdpfezaay Njx Ak Hor Technical data attached as a PDF! Great opportunity at a fair price!

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2018, functionality: fully functional, Used Horizon Booklet Making System (2018) 1. System Configuration VAC-1000, BC-20, SW-20, SPF-200A, HP-200A, FC-200A, SC-200 Interface Language: Japanese 2. Machine Overview The Horizon VAC-1000 Booklet Making System is designed for high-quality booklet production from offset or digitally printed sheets. It offers reliable feeding, precise collation, and professional booklet finishing, making it suitable for commercial printers and digital print shops. 3. VAC-1000 Air Suction Collator (Specifications) Model: Horizon VAC-1000 Feeding System: Air Suction Rotor Feeding Number of Bins: 10 Bins (Expandable) Maximum Sheet Size: 350 × 500 mm Minimum Sheet Size: 148 × 148 mm Maximum Speed: Up to 9,900 sets/hour (10-bin configuration) Features: Double-feed detection, Block Feed, Cover Feed, Wireless Remote Control Power Supply: Single Phase 200 V, 50/60 Hz 4. SPF-200A Stitcher & Folder (Specifications) Function: Saddle Stitching & Folding Maximum Sheet Size: 356 × 508 mm Pgodpfx Aezl Nivjk Hjr Minimum Sheet Size: 120 × 180 mm Maximum Stitch Thickness: 4 mm (Approx. 48 sheets of 64 gsm paper) Production Speed: Up to 4,500 booklets/hour (A5) Up to 4,000 booklets/hour (A4) Stitch Modes: Saddle Stitch, Top Stitch, Corner Stitch, Fold Only Compatible Units: VAC-1000, HP-200A, FC-200A, SC-200 Power Supply: Single Phase 200 V, 50/60 Hz

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, Professional combined painting and drying system with partition wall from Sehon, featuring a large cabin capacity and PLC control. Manufacturer: Sehon Innovative Painting Systems and Technology Model: SE-Professional Futura Year of manufacture: 2007 System type: Combined painting and drying system Cabin internal dimensions: 14,000 x 5,000 x 4,400 mm Cabin external height: approx. 4,900 mm Inlet/outlet gates: 2 units, front and rear Gate opening: 4,000 mm high x 4,500 mm wide Gate construction: insulated steel sandwich panel Gate panel thickness: 54 mm Housing: mineral wool-insulated steel cassettes Cassette thickness: 50 mm Housing color: RAL 9010 Pure White Material: chromated steel sheet Control: Siemens C7 PLC control Operation: Soft-touch panel with touch display Operating modes: Painting, drying, manual operation, timer operation Temperature control: stepless, microprocessor-controlled Filter monitoring: ceiling filter, pre-filter, paint separation mat Operating hour counter: integrated Alarm messages: visual and audible Pressure control: semi-automatic Supply air motor power: 7.5 kW Exhaust air motor power: 7.5 kW Motor power supply: 4 x 400 Volt Total connected load: approx. 37 kW Supply air unit: high-pressure radial fan Exhaust air unit: high-pressure radial fan Airflow rate control: adjustable motor slide Filter system: pocket filters on sliding rails Pre-filter efficiency class: EU3 Fresh air duct: galvanized steel sheet Exhaust air duct: galvanized steel sheet Fresh air duct height: approx. 6 m above floor level Exhaust air duct height: approx. 10 m above floor level Solvent pipe: available Hot air generator: indirect oil or gas firing Combustion chamber material: chromium steel V4A Combustion chamber material numbers: 1.4828 / 1.4541 Burner system: 4-pass system Oil burner: Elco-Klöckner Vectron L04.480 Duo Pgodpfoy Tiaasx Ak Hor Oil burner power range: 110 - 350 kW Gas burner: Elco-Klöckner EK04.34 G-ZVT1+QS Gas burner power range: 90 - 330 kW Gas burner design: Low-NOx with Quick-Start Type QS93 Solenoid valve: 1/2 inch Safety functions: safety and after-run thermostat Cabin construction: heat and sound insulated Condition: used Further painting equipment available upon request. System currently still in operation, available from June 2026.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2015, operating hours: 77,212 h, For sale is a mass finishing machine from the manufacturer Rösler, type R 620 Euro including centrifuge. The machine is in very good condition and can be inspected on site. Pjdpfotqlqiox Ak Hjgr

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, With this offer, you are purchasing a used ‘Watkiss Auto SpineMaster’ book spine press. Item for sale: 1 x Watkiss Auto SpineMaster Condition: This offer is for a used device, which may show signs of wear (minor scratches or yellowing). The device has been tested for functionality. Pgodpfx Aoym Nlnsk Hor Packaging and shipping: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please make an appointment! Seaworthy packaging and worldwide shipping available on request! A functionality test will be recorded on video for you before shipping or collection. For more information, please feel free to contact us personally.

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, ERNST NAGEL Foldnak 8 (refurbished) !! In excellent condition / like new !! Saddle stitching machine for brochures up to 100 pages, 2 stitching heads for wire and booklet staples Stitching and folding in a single process, Pedpfjzmgm Usx Ak Hjgr automatic triggering via photocells Magazine and misfeed control, counter, adjustable stapler anvils, wire and booklet staples in the same stitching head, format change in approx. 1 minute! Paper formats DIN A5, A4, A3, A3+, SRA3 (and any intermediate format) Brochure formats DIN A4, A5, A6 (and any intermediate format) 2 stitching heads with magazine control. No staple – no stitching. No adjustment for paper thickness required Staple types: wire staples Ri 26/6 Booklet staples 26/6, 26/8, 26/8S Production output up to 2,000 brochures/hour Connection: 230 V, 50 Hz, 300 W Weight: 109 kg / Dimensions in mm: H 870 x W 610 x D 1270 NAGEL TRIMMER / Front cutter processes everything that comes from the Foldnak 8. The pressing station before trimming ensures flat-lying brochures with a sharp fold; top-mounted conveyor belts ensure secure paper transport, even of "thick" brochures; adjustable belt advance ensures accurate alignment against the stop, even with brochures fed in at an angle; format change in 30 seconds. Brochure formats DIN A4, A5, A6 (and any intermediate format), min. 10 cm Weight: 160 kg Without a scale plate, only a collection tray is available.

Condition: good (used), 1 x table grinding machine Sigg Polyfinish D 2 for small parts with 10 chambers. Pjdpfjvpikxsx Ak Hogr Accessories: 8 x plastic containers, 4 of which come complete with lid and holder. Further details to follow. The machine can be viewed under power.

Condition: good (used), Vibratory finishing machine pre-filter system, filter system, pre-filter tank, water filter for rotary vibrator, vibratory finishing machine, vibratory finishing system, vibratory finishing rotary vibrator, vibratory finishing system, continuous vibrator Psdpfsigamuox Ak Hsgr -Pre-filter system: for vibratory finishing machines or other applications -Transport rack: mobile, with 2 filter inserts -Collection container: Volume approx. 350 liters -Overall dimensions: 1400/620/H920 mm -Weight: 106 kg

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, Equipment: lighting, Modern painting systems and drying rooms must meet higher requirements than just a few years ago. The use of new coating systems, such as hydro-based paints, polyurethane resins, and epoxy-zinc powder or epoxy-iron glitter paints, demands advanced paint room solutions. A key aspect is the workpiece transport to the painting system and further processing. Our engineers offer expert guidance, whether it's dry overspray removal, wet washing, air humidification, or air drying, condensation drying at low temperatures, or hot air drying. We also provide pre-treatment solutions such as high-pressure washing with water circulation systems or compressed air blasting or wheel blasting techniques. Key Components of a Modern Painting System: Painting Booth: The key element of our system, equipped with advanced air filtration and ventilation systems to ensure a dust-free environment for top-quality results. 🎨 Air Treatment: Essential for maintaining the air balance in the spray booth by drawing in filtered air to replace the air exhausted by the ventilation system. 🌬️ Exhaust System: Removes overspray and volatile organic compounds (VOCs) from the booth, ensuring good air quality and operator safety. 🌿 Drying & Curing Oven: After painting, parts are transferred to the oven to cure and obtain a durable, high-quality surface. 🔥 Conveyor System: An automated conveyor moves parts from the spray booth to the oven, ensuring efficiency and consistency. 🚜 Control Panel: The brain of the system, where the operator controls everything from ventilation to temperature and conveyor speed. ⚙️ Pedpfxoun R Ufj Ak Hegr Lighting: LED-based lighting provides excellent visibility while also offering energy savings. 💡 Why Choose Our Painting & Drying Systems: Quality: Carefully designed with advanced features to ensure greater efficiency and performance. 🎯 Safety First: Efficient exhaust systems, fire suppression, and fire-resistant materials ensure a safe working environment. 🛡️ Customization: We offer customizable solutions that cater to your specific needs and preferences. 🛠️ Easy Maintenance: Our systems are designed to be easy to maintain, with durable and easy-to-clean materials. 🔧 Excellent Support: We provide top-notch customer service and technical support for installation, troubleshooting, and optimal maintenance. 🧰 Environmental Responsibility: Our systems are designed to be energy-efficient and environmentally friendly, minimizing pollution and making them a sustainable choice for surface treatment. 🌍 Complete Solutions for Painting Systems: Conveyor Systems: Automated transport systems for painting and blasting booths, with intersections and switching systems for parts up to 2000 kg. 🚛 Easy-to-Replace Filters: Painting booths with ceiling exhausts and easy-to-replace filter elements. 🧹 Versatile Heating & Drying Solutions: Heating options include oil, gas, or electrical heating, as well as cross-flow heat exchangers and activated carbon filters for solvent-heavy processes. 🌡️ Integrated Paint Supply System: An integrated paint supply system with airless pumps for full coverage in the painting booth. 🎨 Our complete solutions provide everything you need for efficient and safe painting operations. Get in touch with our experts today to optimize your painting system!

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2023, functionality: fully functional, 4 Wagner TWINCONTROL 2k paint application systems, color spraying systems 2 x low-pressure systems, used only once for testing purposes 2 x Airmix systems, little used, in new condition Each system consists of 3 piston pumps: 1 x for the base component 1 x for the hardener component 1 x for flushing with accessories On request, also available with stainless steel storage tanks with agitator, 2 x new, 2 x demonstration units Can also be purchased separately Ideal for series production and automation EX version, as it operates only with compressed air Purchase or lease takeover possible See also document in the appendix (designations) Price description: Two systems always belong together. One system for priming, one system for painting. 1. Twin Control low-pressure (AirCode), either sales price 59,000 euros or lease takeover 1,530 euros/month + 17,000 euros takeover 2. Twin Control high-pressure (Airmix), either sales price 62,000 euros or lease takeover 1,535 euros/month + 19,000 euros takeover Lease takeover subject to: Agreement from the leasing company Pgjdpfx Aozk A H Eek Hjr 3. Stainless steel storage tanks (2 new) with agitator, sales price 3,200 euros 4. Stainless steel storage tanks (2 used) with agitator, sales price 2,400 euros If the complete package is taken over, the price is negotiable.