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Condition: good (used), mileage: 306,288 km, first registration: 07/2019, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 3,400 mm, fuel: diesel, color: yellow, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 5, emission class: euro6, total length: 5,630 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 2,440 mm, Equipment: cruise control, electric window regulation, tachograph,

Condition: good (used),

Condition: excellent (used),

Condition: good (used), mileage: 580,781 km, power: 346 kW (470.43 HP), first registration: 08/2020, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 3,850 mm, fuel: diesel, brakes: retarder, color: yellow, driver cabin: sleeper cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 14, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel-air, total length: 6,250 mm, total width: 2,250 mm, total height: 3,750 mm, Equipment: ABS, Bluetooth, air conditioning, central locking, cruise control, electric window regulation, navigation system, parking air conditioner, parking heater, power mirror, retarder, seat heater, tachograph, traction control,

Condition: good (used), mileage: 238,517 km, power: 200 kW (271.92 HP), first registration: 07/2021, fuel type: diesel, tire size: 285/70R19,5, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 5,400 mm, fuel: diesel, color: white, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 12, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel-air, total length: 9,360 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 3,380 mm, loading space length: 7,130 mm, loading space width: 2,480 mm, loading space height: 2,150 mm, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, cruise control, electric window regulation, power mirror, seat heater, tachograph, tail-lift, traction control, trailer coupling,

Condition: good (used), mileage: 581,309 km, power: 184 kW (250.17 HP), first registration: 12/2016, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 4,120 mm, fuel: diesel, color: yellow, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 12, emission class: euro6, total length: 7,330 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 3,410 mm, Equipment: ABS, central locking, cruise control, electric window regulation, power mirror, tachograph, tail-lift, traction control,

Condition: used, mileage: 580,796 km, power: 265 kW (360.30 HP), first registration: 07/2014, fuel type: diesel, tire size: 315/70, tire condition: 40 %, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 3,700 mm, fuel: diesel, color: other, driver cabin: sleeper cab, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, total length: 6,160 mm, total width: 2,500 mm, permissible axle load (axle 1): 7,500 kg, permissible axle load (axle 2): 11,500 kg, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, electric window regulation, power mirror, spoiler, = Additional options and accessories = - Roof Spoiler - Sleeper cabin = More information = General information Year of construction: 2014 Registration number: 56-BFB-5 Technical information Number of cylinders: 6 Engine capacity: 10.677 cc Axle configuration Tyre size: 315/70 Tyre profile: 40% Max. front axle load: 7500 kg Max. rear axle load: 11500 kg Weights Empty weight: 7.417 kg Carrying capacity: 11.583 kg GVW: 19.000 kg Max. towing weight: 50.000 kg Bdedpo Ahnm Iofx Apdoi Interior Number of seats: 2

Condition: good (used), mileage: 689,652 km, power: 346 kW (470.43 HP), first registration: 09/2020, fuel type: diesel, tire size: 315/80R22,5, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 3,850 mm, fuel: diesel, brakes: retarder, color: yellow, driver cabin: sleeper cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 14, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel-air, total length: 6,350 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 3,950 mm, Equipment: ABS, Bluetooth, air conditioning, central locking, cruise control, electric window regulation, navigation system, parking air conditioner, parking heater, power mirror, retarder, seat heater, tachograph, traction control,

Condition: good (used), mileage: 273,599 km, power: 355 kW (482.67 HP), first registration: 04/2023, fuel type: diesel, tire size: 315/70R22,5, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 4,000 mm, fuel: diesel, brakes: retarder, color: white, driver cabin: sleeper cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 12, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel-air, total length: 6,300 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 3,950 mm, Equipment: ABS, Bluetooth, air conditioning, central locking, cruise control, electric window regulation, parking heater, power mirror, retarder, seat heater, tachograph, traction control,

Condition: good (used), mileage: 69,914 km, power: 140 kW (190.35 HP), first registration: 11/2018, fuel type: diesel, tire size: 205/75R16, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 3,670 mm, fuel: diesel, color: white, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: mechanical, number of gears: 6, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel, number of seats: 2, total length: 6,150 mm, total width: 2,020 mm, total height: 2,850 mm, loading space length: 3,330 mm, loading space width: 1,770 mm, loading space height: 1,960 mm, Equipment: ABS, Bluetooth, air conditioning, central locking, electric window regulation, navigation system, parking heater, power mirror, tachograph, traction control, trailer coupling,

Year of construction: 2025, condition: used, functionality: fully functional,

Condition: good (used), mileage: 577,475 km, power: 183 kW (248.81 HP), first registration: 12/2016, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 4,100 mm, fuel: diesel, color: yellow, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 12, emission class: euro6, total length: 7,270 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 3,400 mm, Equipment: tail-lift,

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1998, Fortuna bun production line - used - year of manufacture 1998 - automatic divider KM50/4 - pre-proofing unit with stamping station and cutting station - for the production of Kaiser rolls, sliced rolls, round rolls, and doughnuts - maximum output approximately 5,000 pieces/hour - weight range 20-90 g Bdodpfx Aps Ahnmcodji - bun discharge onto trays or into infeed devices - computer control - collection from warehouse - price on request

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2019, operating hours: 19,020 h, functionality: fully functional, total length: 5,813 mm, total height: 3,111 mm, overall weight: 23,200 kg, total width: 2,925 mm, rotor length: 2,200 mm, number of blades: 84, year of last overhaul: 2025, # Lindner Komet 2200 HP – Year of Construction 2019 – 400 kW – approx. 19,020 operating hours For sale is a powerful and regularly maintained Lindner Komet 2200 HP secondary shredder, year of construction 2019, from our existing industrial waste processing plant. The machine was used for the secondary shredding of processed material for the production of substitute fuels (SFS) and was permanently integrated into our stationary production line. ### Technical Data - Manufacturer: Lindner Recyclingtech - Model: Komet 2200-1 HP - Year of Construction: 2019 - Operating Hours: approx. 19,020 h - Drive Power: 2 × 200 kW (400 kW) - Speed: 355 RPM - Operating Voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz - Cutting Unit: 172R - Screening Unit: DM 30 - Hydraulic feed system - Frequency-controlled drive - Siemens HMI touch panel, 15 inches - Freestanding hydraulic unit - Mechanical safety couplings - Mechanical central lubrication ### Equipment and Features Powerful belt drive with ABB asynchronous motors and frequency inverters to adjust the shredding performance to the respective material. Hydraulic feed system for controlled material feed, reusable replaceable knives, and hydraulically pivoting screening unit and stripping comb for maintenance work. ### Maintenance and Servicing The machine was regularly and carefully maintained and serviced throughout its service life. A separate maintenance contract exists with the manufacturer, Lindner Recyclingtech, for the Komet 2200 HP. In addition to the scheduled maintenance, necessary repairs and wear parts were continuously replaced. Important maintenance measures: - 2025: Complete clutch replaced. - Regular rotor resurfacing: The rotor is completely resurfaced at regular intervals to repair worn areas and extend its service life. Bdsdpfs Ahnl Rox Apdoi Maintenance and service records are available and can be viewed upon request. ### Protected Housing of the Control Cabinets The associated control cabinets are located in a separate control room and are thus protected from dust and dirt from the production environment. ### Spare Parts Various available spare parts are included in the scope of delivery and will be handed over to the buyer upon purchase. ### Sale Due to Plant Modernization The sale is taking place due to the modernization and restructuring of our existing recycling plant. An on-site inspection is possible after prior arrangement. ### Dismantling and Loading We will personally assist the buyer on-site during dismantling and loading and supervise the work to ensure a smooth process. Technical documentation as well as maintenance and service records can be provided upon request. Price upon request.

Condition: good (used), Roller conveyor, conveyor belt, roller track, saw roller conveyor -Roller conveyor: non-powered, length 2.0 m -Roller width: 405 mm -Roller diameter: 50 mm -Roller spacing: 330 mm -Frame: Aluminum profile with T-slot -Transport dimensions: 2000/470/H50 mm -Weight: 7 kg Bodpfx Aj Ahnl Aepdedi

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, mileage: 360,000 km, fuel type: diesel, maximum load weight: 7,995 kg, overall weight: 18,000 kg, tire size: 315/80, axle configuration: 4x2, wheelbase: 6,300 mm, fuel: diesel, brakes: engine braking, color: white, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, suspension: air, number of seats: 2, loading space length: 8,550 mm, loading space width: 2,500 mm, Year of construction: 2018, Equipment: ABS, EBS, air conditioning, airbag, cruise control, electronic stability program (ESP), lane keeping assist, power assisted steering, tire pressure monitoring, IVECO Stralis HI-STREET 310, year 2018, approximately 360,000 km, automatic transmission, wheelbase 6,300 mm. Plywood box body with rear roller shutter and retractable hydraulic tail lift, DHOLLANDIA, 2,000 kg capacity. Box body dimensions: 8,550 mm x 2,500 mm x 2,600 mm. Payload: 7,995 kg. Tires: 315/80. Touchscreen infotainment system with Bluetooth radio, air conditioning, adaptive cruise control, lane assist, and collision assist. USED, 12-MONTH WARRANTY. Bjdpfx Ao Ahnlxopdedi

Condition: not inspected (used), Year of construction: 2009, functionality: unexamined, machine/vehicle number: EL05, total length: 3,200 mm, total width: 1,200 mm, total height: 1,700 mm, overall weight: 2,000 kg, Additional technical specifications:Circumferential diameter over bed: 535 mmCircumferential diameter in the bed recess: 560 mmCircumferential diameter over the flat slide: 345 mmBed width: 330 mmCross slide displacement: 330 mmTop slide displacement: 130 mmTurning tool cross section: 25 x 25 mmSpindle nose size: 6Spindle diameter in front bearing: 100 mmLongitudinal feeds: 0.072 - 4 mm/revTransverse feeds: 0.036 - 2 mm/revTailstock quill diameter: 65 mmQuill internal taper: 5Steady rest diameter: approx. 120 mmThe machine is equipped with a tailstock, a Multifix tool holder and a steady rest, steady rest diameter: approx. 120 mm, as well as a quick-action chuck and a 3-axis digital readout from the manufacturer K+C, type: ARBAH-L. Manufacturer: WEILER, Type / Model: DA 260 x 1500, Year of manufacture: 2009, Serial number: EL05, Condition: untested, Frequency: 50 Hz, Rated Current: 15.5 A, Supply voltage: 400 V, Tailstock stroke: 120 mm, Center height: 260 mm, Distance between centers: 1500 mm, Spindle bore: 71 mm, Connected load: 11.5 kVA, Spindle speed: 44 - 2000 rpm, Dimensions (L × W × H): approx. 3200 × 1200 × 1700 mm, Weight: approx. 2000 kg Bedpfx Aj Ahnlujpdsdi

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, mileage: 401,000 km, fuel type: diesel, empty load weight: 12,200 kg, overall weight: 28,000 kg, axle configuration: 6x2, fuel: diesel, brakes: VEB, color: white, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: automatic, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel-air, number of seats: 2, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 4,000 mm, loading space length: 8,700 mm, loading space width: 2,500 mm, Year of construction: 2020, Equipment: traction control, C 380 DTI EURO 6 AIR SUSPENSION ADJUSTABLE CAB STEERABLE REAR AXLE WITH LIFTING CAPABILITY 8.70M BOX BODY REAR CONSOLE FOR FORKLIFT NEARLY NEW TIRES AIR CONDITIONER Bodpo Ahnlmefx Apdedi REVERSING CAMERA OPTIDRIVER 12V GEARBOX

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1989, functionality: fully functional, power: 4 kW (5.44 HP), input voltage: 400 V, input current: 8 A, input frequency: 50 Hz, type of input current: three-phase, planing width: 530 mm, tool diameter: 110 mm, number of blades: 4, rotational speed (max.): 5,000 rpm, total length of planing tables: 880 mm, total width: 880 mm, total height: 1,150 mm, overall weight: 660 kg, S530i thickness planer, - Planing width 530 mm, - Planing height 300 mm, - Table length 880 mm, - Feed rate 5/8/12.5/19.5 m/min, - 4-knife cutterhead, diameter 110 mm, - Speed 5000 rpm, - Motor 4.0 kW, Bjdpfx Apj Ahnlisdedi - Electrically adjustable table height, - Digital display for reading the thickness, - L x W x H 1070 x 880 x 1150 mm, - Weight 660 kg.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2012, operating hours: 33,400 h, functionality: fully functional, control cabinet height: 2,300 mm, number of blades: 28, year of last overhaul: 2025, overall weight: 33,000 kg, type of input current: AC, Lindner Jupiter 2200 – Year of manufacture 2012 – 264 kW – Pre-shredder For sale is a powerful and regularly maintained Lindner Jupiter 2200, year of manufacture 2012, from our existing commercial waste processing plant. The machine was used as an industrial pre-shredder for processing various commercial waste and recyclable material fractions and was permanently integrated into our stationary production line. Technical data Manufacturer: Lindner Recyclingtech Model: Jupiter 2200 Year of manufacture: 2012 Machine number: 1744 Machine weight: approx. 33,000 kg Drive power: 2 × 132 kW (264 kW total) Rotor speed: 51 rpm at 50 Hz Operating voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz Number of knives: 28 pieces Knife dimensions: 116 × 116 × 37 mm Screen opening: Sickles 79 mm Frequency converter: ABB ACS-800 Hydraulic unit: Bosch Rexroth Hydraulic drive: 11 kW Hydraulic oil tank: 400 liters Equipment and special features The Jupiter 2200 features a frequency-controlled drive and a hydraulic feed unit for controlled material feed. The robust design and powerful cutting unit enable use in industrial recycling and processing plants. Maintenance and servicing The machine was regularly and carefully maintained and serviced throughout its service life. A separate maintenance contract exists for the Jupiter 2200 with the manufacturer Lindner Recyclingtech. In addition to the regular maintenance, extensive maintenance and modernization measures were carried out. Important work carried out: Both couplings completely overhauled. Control computer and display renewed. Bedpfo Ahnlbjx Apdedi Rotor completely armored and regularly serviced. Air conditioning unit renewed. Both frequency converters (FC) overhauled. Complete new set of sickles installed. The corresponding maintenance and service records are available and can be viewed upon request. Protected housing of the control cabinets The associated control cabinets are located in a separate control room and are therefore protected from dust and dirt from the production environment. Sale due to plant modernization The machine is being offered for sale as part of the modernization and restructuring of our existing recycling plant. An on-site inspection is possible after prior arrangement. Dismantling and loading We will personally assist the buyer on site during dismantling and loading and supervise the work to ensure a smooth process. Technical documentation as well as maintenance and service records can be provided upon request. Price on request. We look forward to your inquiry.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2016, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 1755741, total length: 4,500 mm, total height: 1,800 mm, total width: 1,900 mm, input voltage: 400 V, energy consumption: 23 kWh, Industrial Film Wrapping Machine LPFK1-218 Manufacturer: Lerum Pac Maskin AB, Sweden Model: LPFK1-218 | Year: approx. 2017 Machine No.: 1755741 Bdjdpfxe Ahnkzo Apdoi Industrial film wrapping machine for automatic packaging of wood products, boards and long profiles. The machine has been used at Superwood A/S and has a total operating time of less than one month. It is being sold due to changes in the production line. Technical data: Max. film width: 800 mm Adjustable conveyor speed Digital temperature control 400 V / 50 Hz, 23 kW Siemens SIMATIC HMI and PLC control Frequency inverters, CE marked Dimensions (L × W × H): approx. 4,500 × 1,880 × 1,560 mm Original documentation included, including manual, electrical and pneumatic diagrams, and spare parts lists. The machine is sold in its current condition. Important: The machine will be removed from the production line in week 52, 2026. Collection is possible from week 2, 2027. Price: EUR 35,000 excl. VAT Location: Hampen, Denmark Delivery: EXW, buyer arranges collection and transport.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2017, operating hours: 1,000 h, functionality: fully functional, overall weight: 150 kg, load capacity: 10 kg, arm reach: 1,420 mm, controller manufacturer: Kuka, controller model: KR C4 smallsize-2, teach pendant manufacturer: Kuka, teach pendant model: Smart pad, input voltage: 400 V, input current: 5 A, type of input current: three-phase, KUKA KR 10 R1420 HP industrial robot with KR C4 smallsize-2 controller and smartPAD, with fewer than 1,000 operating hours, manufactured in 2017. This is a complete, working 6-axis robot package with very low operating hours. It was used in a handling cell and is ready for inspection and a demonstration under power. Bodpfx Ae Ahnktopdjdi Robot arm: KUKA KR 10 R1420 HP Article no. 10026273, serial no. 423090 Year of manufacture: 04/2017 Operating hours: < 1000 Axes: 6 Rated payload: 10 kg Maximum reach: 1,420 mm Pose repeatability: ±0.04 mm Arm weight: 160 kg Mounting: floor, ceiling, wall, or angled HP variant (High Protection): the version with a higher protection rating than the standard IP54 arm, typically IP65 for the robot and IP67 for the wrist Axis ranges: A1 ±170°, A2 −185°/+65°, A3 −137°/+163°, A4 ±185°, A5 ±120°, A6 ±350° Axis speeds: A1 220°/s, A2 210°/s, A3 270°/s, A4 381°/s, A5 311°/s, A6 492°/s Ambient operating temperature: 5–45 °C Controller: KUKA KR C4 smallsize-2 Article no. 11047576, serial no. 324951 Year of manufacture: 2017 Power supply: 3 × 400 V, 50/60 Hz, 5 A full-load current, 25 A mains fuse Weight: 74 kg Scope of delivery: KR 10 R1420 HP robot arm KR C4 smallsize-2 controller KUKA smartPAD teach pendant with cable Motor and data cables between robot and controller Steel floor pedestal (cylindrical) Condition: used, fully functional, low operating hours. Inspection and a test run are possible. Location: Menen, Belgium

Condition: good (used), mileage: 642,694 km, power: 309 kW (420.12 HP), first registration: 04/2017, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 4x4, wheelbase: 3,900 mm, fuel: diesel, brakes: retarder, color: green, driver cabin: sleeper cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 12, emission class: euro6, total length: 6,220 mm, total width: 2,550 mm, total height: 3,730 mm, Equipment: retarder, = Additional options and accessories = - Specified = Remarks = Number of axles: 2, Configuration: 4x4, Tare weight: 8062 kg, Gross vehicle weight: 18000 kg, Total tank capacity: 580 liters, Height of fifth wheel coupling: 113 cm, Fifth wheel coupling: Specified, Number of locks: 1, Winch pulling force: 390 tons, Suspension type: Air suspension, Type of cab: Sleeper cab, Cruise control, Tachograph (driver's control unit), Air conditioning, Auxiliary air conditioning, Auxiliary heater, Electric windows, Electric mirrors, Radio/cassette, GPS navigation, Color: Green, Heated mirrors, Lighting type: Halogen lamp, Climate control, Seat heating, Bluetooth, Flashing lights, Engine power: 309 kW (414 hp), Displacement: 12419 cc, Fuel: Diesel, Euro: 6, Transmission type: AS-Tronic, Transmission type: Traxon, Gears: 12, Auxiliary braking system, Retarder brand: Intarder, Power steering, ABS, ASR, Hydraulic system, Auxiliary drive, PTO type: 1, Pump, Seat arrangement: 1+1, Seat cover: Fabric, Seat adjustment: Manual, tilting hydraulics = Further information = Transmission Transmission: TRA, 12 gears, Automatic Weights Tare weight: 8,062 kg Payload: 9,938 kg GVW: 18,000 kg Functional Pump: Yes Maintenance APK (technical inspection): valid until 02.2027 Condition Technical condition: good Optical condition: good Damage: none Number of keys: 2 Identification License plate: KLEYN1 = Company information = Kleyn Trucks is one of the largest independent used vehicle dealers in the world. Here, you can choose from a constantly changing stock of 1200 used trucks, tractor units, and trailers. Our range includes all European brands from various years of manufacture and price ranges. Why buy from Kleyn Trucks? Simple! • Large, rapidly changing inventory Bsdpfo Ahnkljx Apdjdi • Recognizable quality • A good price • Proper business practices • We speak many languages • We understand our customers • Assistance with import and transport • (Export) license plates can be arranged quickly • Expert technical services • The security of "recognizable quality" • And more... Please visit our website for special offers and a complete inventory: Leasing through Kleyn Trucks is possible in most European countries! Quickly calculate your leasing rate and send an inquiry via our website. Ask directly about our European warranty package.

Condition: used, Cutters for the professional, machine-based machining of solid wood, wood-based materials and other suitable materials. Technical data: - Blade: HW - Flight circle (ø): 140 mm - Bore: 40 mm - Marking: MEC Bsdpe Ahnkhsfx Apdsdi - Length: 55 mm - Material: Steel

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2010, functionality: fully functional, working width: 2,500 mm, welding power (max.): 500 kVA, wire diameter (max.): 10 mm, type of input current: three-phase, mesh size: 25,002,500 mm, continuous power (apparent): 500 kVA, The VARO SARG-2500 is an automatic line designed for the production of welded wire mesh for fencing applications, equipped with medium-frequency welding technology. The machine is designed to process mesh panels up to 2,500 x 2,500 mm, using longitudinal and cross wires with diameters ranging from 3.0 to 8.0 mm. The minimum adjustable pitch is 30 mm for longitudinal wires and 10 mm for cross wires. The welding system consists of 12 welding heads with double-stage pneumatic cylinders and 2 TECNA 250 kVA welding transformers, controlled by inverters. The production speed specified in the technical documentation is 70–90 welds/min. The line includes automatic loading of the longitudinal wires, an electronically controlled pushing system for feeding the wires into the welding station, and an automatic system for loading the upper and lower cross wires. Mesh advancement is electronically controlled by a brushless motor, with adjustable mechanical grippers. After welding, an electronically controlled carriage transfers the mesh to the next processing stage. The system is equipped with two hydraulic side trimming units for cutting the protruding wire ends. The line also includes a bending station with an hydraulic press, needed for the 3D panels. After bending, the finished mesh is automatically transferred to the unloading station and deposited onto a supporting table or pallet. Machine operation is managed through a dedicated electrical control cabinet with Siemens S7 PLC, PC and operator panel for setting and controlling the production cycle parameters. Main Technical Specifications • Manufacturer: VARO • Model: SARG-2500 • Maximum mesh size: 2,500 x 2,500 mm • Longitudinal wire diameter: 3.0–8.0 mm • Cross wire diameter: 3.0–8.0 mm • Minimum longitudinal wire pitch: 25 mm, adjustable • Minimum cross wire pitch: 10 mm, adjustable • Number of welding heads: 12 • Welding transformers: 2 x TECNA 250 kVA three phases • Welding speed: 70–90 welds/min • Power supply: 400 V / 50 Hz • Hydraulic bending press: yes • Control system: Siemens S7 PLC + PC • Cross wire loading: Upper and lower Bedo Ahnkdjpfx Apdsdi • Side trimming: 2 hydraulic trimming units • Mesh feeding: Electronically controlled, brushless motor