Used Matzek R-Sw 1500 Sv for sale (70,864)

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2023, operating hours: 813 h, Matzek R-SW 1500 SV suction truck, built in 2023, 813 operating hours, tank capacity 1500 liters, side channel blower 7.5 kW, suction and pressure approx. 250 mbar, 2 spring-loaded rollers at the front 80 mm, wheels at the rear 130 mm, serial no. 232956/SV, suction machine for oil and chips Pgodpjv Ix Abefx Af Sot

Year of construction: 2003, condition: excellent (used), BCD Stainless Steel Process Tank Capacity 1500 |Ltr Pgodpfx Afjz E Inzo Set 316 Stainless Steel Bevelled bottom Drian with leaver closer

Condition: used, Used chamber filter press Andritz/Netzsch 1500x2000 with 125 plates Quantity: 2 available Press dimensions: Length: 13455 mm x Width: 3125 mm x Height: 4635 mm Empty weight: 51600 kg Filter area: 459 m2 Filter area after expansion: 559 m2 Pgedpfjzlb D Sox Af Sot Press volume: 4989 l Press volume after expansion: 6080 l Cake thickness: 25 mm

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, Machine No. 78, control system, manufacturer Boschert, tool quick-change system, manufacturer Trumpf, punching force: 3 x 280 kN, station 1 Trumpf system tool size 3 (105 mm) with spray device, station 2 Trumpf system tool size 3 (105 mm), freely indexable rotation, station 3 Trumpf system tool/Boschert Revotool size 3 (105 mm), including Revotool 8-position tool holder, travel distances X – 3,000 mm (adjustable up to 9,999 mm), Y – 1,580 mm, punching arm overhang 1,730 mm, sheet thickness max.: 6 mm (clamp opening), stroke height max.: 90 mm, programmable in increments upwards and downwards, punching slug extraction, ball bearings in the machine table Pgsdpez Dv Tvofx Af Sjt Table width left + right: 3,200 mm each, table depth: 2,810 mm, table height: 900 mm, overall width: 6,482 mm, overall depth: 4,600 mm, overall height: 2,110 mm; with workshop cart, manufacturer KS Tools, 7 drawers, contents: various hand tools.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2019, connected load frequency / V weight / kg range L-W-H / mm Podjypwd Djpfx Af Sogt Condition: As good as new Type: Drum turner SV-Ex Item no.: 147724 Year of construction: 2019 Load capacity: 300kg

Condition: like new (used), functionality: fully functional, MACHINE FOR CLEANING LAMINATE SURFACES ON FURNITURE, IN PERFECT CONDITION. Pedsy Szutopfx Af Sogt

Condition: refurbished (used), functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 844 12 64, turning diameter over cross slide: 215 mm, spindle bore: 40 mm, turning diameter: 380 mm, center height: 190 mm, center width: 1,250 mm, quill stroke: 120 mm, total length: 3,020 mm, total width: 950 mm, total height: 1,500 mm, spindle speed (max.): 2,800 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 14 rpm, overall weight: 1,850 kg, quill mount: MK 3, workpiece weight (max.): 300 kg, Trade show lathe, available from stock. After Trens filed for bankruptcy, we made an effort and had TOS and later Trens lathes completely overhauled. All machines were disassembled down to the last screw. Here is a run-through of a general overhaul at our company: 1. Machine cleaning, disassembly of the individual machine components 2. Grinding: bed, slide, cross support, spindle, tailstock quill 3. Grinding + scraping of the upper support guideways, replacement: trapezoidal screw with nut and V-ledge 4. Scraping of the guide surfaces: spindle, slide, cross support, and tailstock to geometric positions according to the accuracy report 5. Replacement: screw with nut, V-ledge, and Multifix base body for the cross support (including 2 turning tool cartridges) 6. Complete disassembly and replacement of the necessary spare parts in the lock case, threaded housing, headstock, gear box, tailstock, cross support, and upper support 7. Installation, replacement if necessary, of racks, repair of the lead screw and feed screw 8. Complete bearing replacement in all machine assemblies 9. Complete replacement of machine plates 10. Priming of the machine, sealing, sanding, polyurethane topcoat, and painting of the machine accessories - white RAL 9003, anthracite RAL 7016 11. New control cabinet with electrical components, replacement: main motor, rapid traverse motor, hydraulic pump, cabling, and LED lighting of the work area 12. Preparation of the accuracy report and the electrical test report 13. Inspection and machine acceptance at the factory All refurbished machines have a CE certificate and a 12-month warranty. CE version: - Chuck guard with limit switch - Front chip guard mounted on slide - Rear chip guard - Lead screw and feed screw covers - Brakes after emergency stop within 2 seconds Special accessories (used): - Three-jaw lathe chuck Ø 190 mm Pedpfjv Hzqxex Af Sogt - Four-jaw lathe chuck Ø 190 mm - Three-jaw lathe chuck Ø 240 mm - Four-jaw faceplate Ø 320 mm - Support center for bed slide - Various chuck jaws (10 pieces) - Collet set Ø 2 - 25 mm with collet chuck + drawbar - Special collet set (10 pieces) with collet chuck - 4-way tool holder

Condition: like new (used), Year of construction: 2019, Technical Data: Cross-cutting line with punching unit Strip running direction from the operator's side: right to left Coil changing side in strip running direction: left Operator's side, straightening machine in strip running direction: left Raw material: • cold-rolled strip: S320GD; S350GD; S380GD (strip-galvanized structural steels) • plastic-coated steel strip • aluminum • basically dry surface or commercially oiled • laminated strip • stainless steel Uncoiler: Type: Power Coil M-BS 1600 2 coil loading stations The coil storage track is designed so that a distance of 900 mm remains between 2 coils with an outer diameter of 1600 mm Loading semi-automatic Strip width 200 – 1600 mm Max. coil weight: 16 tons Coil diameter inside uncoiler: 508 - 610 mm Coil diameter outside uncoiler: 900 - 1600 mm Spreading range 470 – 625 mm Machine frame movable on linear guides Spreading hydraulically Strip withdrawal from the coil automatically Coil side guidance automatically, 4-point coil side guidance Press roller, rubberized, centrally positioned on the strip, hydraulically Electrical locking of lifting and traversing movement Control system: Control concept LBF – Control Concept LSV SCHULER Cross-cutting shear: Type: SCHULER HSU-1600 Shear gap adjustment is carried out by motor The shear is used to cut the strip end at a right angle before processing the first part of a production sequence. Bridging roller bed: Arrangement of the bridging roller bed upstream of the straightening machine Type: VOMA C1600 N Passage, max. strip width 1600 mm Length of bridging roller bed 1050 mm Material running height in the straightening machine 1600 mm Straightening machine: Type: SCHULER SVH 12-53-70-96 / 160-1600 Straightening speed max. 60 m/min. Straightening speed min. 5 m/min. Number of straightening rollers 12 pcs. Diameter of infeed rollers 160 mm Diameter of straightening rollers 3 x 53 mm, 3 x 70 mm, 6 x 96 mm Loop radius 1600 mm Material running height in the straightening machine 1600 mm Strip side guidance automatically Support rollers to prevent roller deflection All-roller drive Looping unit: Threading process in the direction of roller feed via looping bridge, remote-controlled Automatic loop control for continuous straightening process Loop depth below floor approx. 2,500 mm 4-point guidance through 2 sequentially arranged strip side guides To increase feed accuracy, the feed length is recorded by means of a measuring wheel (arranged in front of the feed rollers) Roller feed: Type: SCHULER AC-RP-160-1600 Feed rollers, diameter 160 mm Loop radius 1600 mm Material running height above floor 1200 mm Drive, upper and lower roller, servo drive via a common distributor gear Special coating of the feed rollers Pgedpfjzzrutox Af Set Max. acceleration 15 m/s² Brake rollers: Brake rollers generate the strip pull during the rewinding of the strip material from the system onto the coil, in a generator-like manner Adjustment system hydraulically Punching unit with NC tool holder: Type: SCHULER HSU-1600 Design: Double C-frame Punching unit designed as 2 C-frame units, which can be traversed transversely to the strip direction by means of 2 servomotors, for accommodating the punching tools Number of punching tools per side max. 6 pcs. Punching tool, servomotor-driven, 90° rotatable 1 punching cylinder per punching tool Punching force min. 580 kN Max. hole diameter ∅ 90 mm for material thickness 4 mm Manufacturer of punching tools: WILSON TOOL Elevating table: Type: LAWE

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2013, operating hours: 15,159 h, machine/vehicle number: 61600, A trough vibrator (vibratory finishing machine) including centrifuge from the manufacturer Rösler is for sale. The machine is in very good condition and can be inspected on site by telephone appointment. Pgsdpfx Afeqrr A Rs Sst

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2012, functionality: fully functional, clamping force: 1,500 kN, screw diameter: 50 mm, clearance between the columns: 520 mm, overall weight: 6,500 kg, Clamping force: 150 t Year of manufacture: 2012 Injection shot weight: 359 g Injection unit 800 Screw diameter: 50 mm Specific injection pressure: 2000 bar Injection volume: 392 cm³ Injection shot weight: 359 g Screw L/D ratio: 24 Tool closing unit 1500 Clamping force: 150 t Tool plate dimensions: 695 x 695 mm Distance between columns: 520 x 520 mm Tool height: 250...650 mm Opening stroke: 400 mm Maximum plate distance: 650...1050 mm Weight: 6500 kg Dimensions (m) L x W x H: 5.25 x 1.67 x 2.20 m Control system: Selogica Pgjdpfoz D U Tnox Af Sst Equipment: Hydraulic core 12-zone hot runner system Accumulator Frequency converter Hidrive drive 4 x pneumatic valve

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, Attachment: Used chamber filter press, membrane filter press Type: Passavant Year of manufacture: 2007 Application area: Sludge dewatering Filter plate format: 1500x2000 Pgjdpfx Afjzk E S Rj Set Number of plates: approx. 58 Filter plates: PP Filter cloths: available as an option, tailored to the medium Filter area: approx. 286 m2 Press volume: approx. 4660 dm3 Filter pressure: approx. 15 bar Total weight: 32,900 kg Application: Sludge treatment, dewatering system. Filter presses are batch-operated pressure filters used for the solid-liquid separation of suspensions. Purchase or rental: Rental or purchase. Inspection of the equipment can be arranged at our factory.

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, functionality: fully functional, Effective cutting length: 4000 mm Blade diameter: 500 mm Podpfxezzd N Ae Af Sogt Electronic tilting of the inner/outer saw heads Tilting range: 22.5° to 135°

Year of construction: 1988, condition: used, Transversal Sheet metal Stiffening machine ALMORE type DS RT 1500 Pgedpfxjzwclho Af Set Year of construction:1988 Capacity: 1550 x 1,5 mm Thickness: from 0,4 to 1,5 mm Speed: from 7 to 15 m/min. Foot control Length: unlimited Useful machine for making ventilation ducts Voltage: 380 V Dimensions (L x W x H): 2000 x 800 x 1500 mm Weight: approx 1500 kg

Year of construction: 2004, condition: used, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: S 10054, A professional, high-precision longitudinal seam welding machine designed specifically for the ventilation and ducting industry. The WAMMES SW 1250 provides airtight, high-strength overlapping stitch and continuous seam welds on round ducts and fittings, ensuring compliance with strict industrial leakage standards. Specifications: - Manufacturer: WAMMES Machining (Germany) - Model: SW 1250 - Application: High-efficiency stitch and continuous welding for ventilation ducts, chimneys, and round fittings. - Welding Length (Max): 1250 mm - Material Thickness Range: Galvanized Steel: 0.4 mm – 1.0 mm (approx.) Stainless Steel: 0.4 mm – 0.8 mm (approx.) Key Features & Components: Pgsdpfx Afezbh Hyj Sst - Airtight Seam Quality: Engineered to deliver tight, consistent welds without damaging the zinc coating on galvanized sheets. - Robust Clamping System: Heavy-duty pneumatic or mechanical clamping bars hold the rolled cylinder perfectly in place for uniform seam alignment. - Adjustable Overlap: Allows for precise calibration of the joint overlap, minimizing material waste. - Industrial Control Panel: Simple, operator-friendly interface for adjusting welding speed, current, and stitch intervals. - Foot Pedal Operation: Facilitates safe, hands-free workpiece positioning and cycle activation. Condition & Availability - Status: Fully operational and in good working condition. - Ready for delivery

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2018, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 10000241, workpiece height (max.): 160 mm, workpiece width (max.): 310 mm, number of spindles: 4, WEINIG POWERMAT 1500 - SPECIAL MACHINE CONFIGURED FOR MILLING WOODEN DOOR FRAME PANELS Working width 30 - 310mm (with tool flight circle 93-125mm) Working height 10 - 160mm (with tool flight circle 93-163 mm)Description of machine parameters Number of spindles 4 Spindles bottom 1 Spindles right 1 Spindles left 1 Spindles top 1 Separate motor for each spindle Electronic feed incl. brake, infinitely variable 5-40 m/min. Short infeed table 1.2 m long with 2 driven rollers above the table Hard-coated machine table surface Manual lubricant pump WEINIG Comfort Set Control system WEINIG MEMORY PLUS-SYSTEM Pgsdpeuygcwsfx Af Sot CE mark Declaration of Conformity

Year of construction: 2011, condition: ready for operation (used), Various metalworking machines, including a larger Wagner radial drilling machine, are available. 1) Column radial drilling machine Wagner PRC 50, year of manufacture: 2011, drilling capacity (steel): 50mm, spindle stroke: 315mm, outreach range: 350mm-1600mm, spindle-base plate distance: 370mm-1270mm, speed: 2000rpm, machine dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 2500mm/1100mm/2900mm, weight: approx. 3500kg. The machine has an unknown defect. 2) Column drilling machine Alzmetall AX3/SV, year of manufacture: 2000, drilling capacity (steel): 32mm, spindle stroke: 120mm, outreach: 293mm, column diameter: 115mm, table dimensions X/Y: 515mm/360mm, speed: 2250rpm, weight: approx. 300kg. 3) 2x metal circular saw Macc NTM 350, year of manufacture: 1998/2010, saw blade diameter: 350mm, cutting capacity: 120mm, weight: approx. 450kg. 4) Belt grinding machine Grit A/S GIS 150, year of manufacture: 2014, belt dimensions X/Y: 150mm/2000mm, motor power: 4kW, weight: approx. 100kg. An on-site inspection is possible. A package sale is preferred. Pedpfx Afey Eqtie Segt

Condition: like new (used), 1500 m² Schäfer R3000 warehouse racking system, 3 stories Used, in top condition, like new, see pictures. Ground floor: steel construction warehouse racking system, above: 2 floors of Schäfer shelving system Manufacturer: SCHÄFER R3000 CAD planning and assembly 3 stories Partial sale possible Negotiable price: upon request! Goods are in stock. Transport and assembly available upon request. Inspection possible at any time by appointment. Further information available upon request. We constantly have over 5000 linear meters of pallet racking from numerous manufacturers in stock. (Subject to changes and errors in technical data, specifications, and prices, as well as prior sale! See our terms and conditions, all prices excl. VAT, ex warehouse). Pedehzw Hijpfx Af Ssgt Lenox Trading – Top warehouse technology & used and new heavy-duty racking Description: Are you looking for high-quality warehouse racking to buy? With around 100 employees, Lenox Trading is one of the largest dealers of new and used warehouse technology in the entire DACH region (Austria, Germany, Switzerland). ⚡ IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE: • Over 10,000 linear meters of racking immediately available • 20,000 m² of warehouse racking & steel construction racking immediately available • 30-50 semi-trailer loads of goods turnover weekly for maximum selection 📦 OUR RANGE (BUY CHEAP ONLINE): Whether it's pallet racking, heavy-duty racking, high-bay racking, shelving systems, tire racks or racks for IBC containers – we deliver and assemble throughout Europe with our OWN team! Including CAD planning, transport, disassembly and assembly. 🏭 TOP BRANDS USED & FROM INSOLVENCY / LIQUIDATION: • SSI Schäfer (Schäfer warehouse technology, R 3000, PR 600, PR 300) • Jungheinrich (Type MPB, Type E, heavy-duty racking Jungheinrich) • Wezsuisse Euronorm, Bito RK 4209, Schäfer EK 113, Schäfer RK 521, Schäfer LF 533, Familog SP 6428, R-KLT 4315, RL-KLT 6147, Schäfer KLT 3214, UTZ SILAFIX 3Z, EF 3120, EF 6420 • Cantilever racking (Elvedi cantilever racking, Schäfer, Ohra) • Stow, Meta, Bito, Galler, Nedcon, Voest (Vöst), SLP, Palflex, Ramada, Bauer, Ohrner 🔨 OUR SECOND BUSINESS: ONLINE AUCTIONS & LIQUIDATION For disassembly and clearance projects, we offer a complete, all-round carefree package: 1. Fixed-price purchase: Purchase of merchandise, equipment & complete inventory including a thorough cleanup. 2. Commission auction: Conducting auctions on behalf of clients. Our full-service provided by our own employees: Cataloging, office preparation, inspection, goods handover, logistics, dismantling and thorough handover. Whether you found us through heavy-duty racking or are looking for galvanized heavy-duty racking / heavy-duty racking systems – we guarantee the best conditions. Contact us for a non-binding offer!

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2005, Name: Sludge dewatering centrifuge used Podey Edfbspfx Af Ssgt Manufacturer: Huber Type: RoD 1500 Year built: 2005 Driving force: 18,5 kW Throughput m³/h: 12 m3/h Permissible sediment density: 1,2 kg/dm³ Max. bowl speed: 4000 rpm Inner diameter drum: 365 mm Material: Stainless steel Dimensions: L 2800 x W 1000 x H 1100 mm Empty weight: 3000 kg Technical doc.: Yes Message: Immediate availability, Worm drive: Viscotherm Rododiff 10715, Hydraulics B/C 7.5 -16 Z HP Accessories: Control cabinet and a hydraulic system Condition: Second hand Price: On demand

Condition: excellent (used), RMS Electrodynamic Vibration Test System Pjdpszd Rvzofx Af Sogt Vibration Exciter SW 3006+ Power Amplifier TGA 1500 Technical Data: Sine: 3.7 kN Random: 3.7 kN Shock: 3.7 kN Stroke pk-pk: 26 mm Velocity: 0.9 m/s Acceleration: 80 g Cooling: air-cooled Condition: used Untested! Testing was not possible Scope of delivery: (see picture) (Changes and errors in the technical data may apply!) We are happy to answer further questions by phone.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2013, Offered is a precision sheet metal straightening machine. Material width: 1500mm, material thickness: 1-2mm, suitable for: aluminum, control: Siemens Simatic OP177B. Equipped with roller conveyor discharge frame. Additionally available spare parts: Siemens Control Unit 24V DC (6SL3040-1NB00-0AA0), Siemens compact asynchronous motor 15kW (1PH7133-2DF02-0BA0), Siemens synchronous servo motor (1FK7042-5AK71-1KG0), Siemens Sinamics Basic Line Module (6SL3130-1TE22-0AA0), Siemens Simatic Panel OP177B, INA cam rollers. Weight: approx. 6700kg, overall dimensions X/Y/Z: approx. 2400mm/1600mm/1800mm. Inspection possible by arrangement. Pgedpfx Aoy Uyfvsf Set

Year of construction: 2005, condition: used, Clamping force: 1500kN, rated current: 133A, connected load: 74kW, an on-site inspection is possible. Podpjzybvqsfx Af Sjgt

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2005, travel distance X-axis: 1,050 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,050 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,000 mm, workpiece weight (max.): 20,000 kg, table width: 1,140 mm, table length: 1,640 mm, workpiece length (max.): 2,520 mm, workpiece width (max.): 1,520 mm, workpiece height (max.): 945 mm, feed rate Z-axis: 12 m/min, overall weight: 30,000 kg, table load: 20,000 kg, # OPS INGERSOLL GANTRY 1500 / 64 Bit ## Completely Overhauled – Completion Expected 10/2026 For sale is an OPS INGERSOLL wire EDM machine, model GANTRY 1500 / 64 Bit, manufactured in 2005. This machine will undergo a comprehensive and professional overhaul in our facility. Upon completion of the overhaul, the machine will be in very good technical and optical condition and will be ready for immediate use in reliable production operations. ### Technical Data Manufacturer: OPS INGERSOLL Model: GANTRY 1500 / 64 Bit Year of Manufacture: 2005 Condition: Completely Overhauled Completion: Expected 10/2026 Control: Mitsubishi – 64-bit CNC Generator Power: 70 A – Multipulse Travel Ranges X / Y / Z: 1,050 × 2,000 × 1,000 mm Electrode Changer: 15-position pick-up disc changer Work Tank (W × D × H): 1,520 × 2,520 × 945 mm Workpiece Clamping Table (W × D): 1,380 × 2,380 mm Load Capacity: 20,000 kg ### Accessories * CO₂ fire extinguishing system * Cartridge filter system ## Extensive Overhaul The OPS INGERSOLL GANTRY 1500 will undergo a comprehensive and professional overhaul in our facility. As part of the overhaul, the machine will be disassembled to over 70%. All relevant components and wear parts will be carefully inspected and, if necessary, professionally repaired or replaced. ### The following overhaul work will be carried out: Pjdpfxjz Atdrj Af Sogt * Inspection and, if necessary, replacement of the ball screws and ball bearings of the X, Y, and Z axes * Inspection and, if necessary, replacement of all four ball screws of the tank drive * Inspection and testing of the C-axis for tightness and accuracy * Geometric inspection of all axes according to the OPS INGERSOLL test protocol * Thorough cleaning of the entire machine base * Cleaning of the entire work tank, including replacement of the felt wipers * Overhaul of the dielectric pumps * Replacement of all hydraulic and dielectric lines * Replacement of all pneumatic lines * Thorough cleaning of the control cabinet, generator, and control system * Replacement of all relevant fans and batteries * Overhaul or, if necessary, replacement of power supplies, units, and servo amplifiers * Final laser measurement of the machine after the overhaul is completed ## Quality Inspection and Erosion Test After completion of all overhaul work, the machine will undergo a comprehensive functional and quality inspection. This includes, in particular, a detailed erosion test according to the quality and testing requirements of OPS INGERSOLL. This test will verify the relevant machine functions as well as the accuracy and process reliability. ## Ready for Production After Overhaul After successful completion of the overhaul and final inspection, the OPS INGERSOLL GANTRY 1500 / 64 Bit will be immediately ready for use. With its high load capacity of 20,000 kg, the generous travel ranges, and the large work area, this machine is particularly suitable for the reliable machining of large and heavy workpieces in demanding production environments. A powerful and comprehensively overhauled wire EDM machine for users who value high machine quality, process reliability, and long-term operational capability.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2007, functionality: fully functional, total height: 2,900 mm, total length: 1,100 mm, total width: 3,150 mm, working width: 3,000 mm, Manufacturer: Heimer Model: TSW-R 22-22 Year of manufacture: 2007 Psdpfjzlrrmsx Af Ssgt General / technical data: Used spray booth with dry filter technology (TSW). The spray booth has a modular design and can be connected to an exhaust unit. The filter mats above the paint booth absorb the particles during the painting process within their structure. Due to the modular design, the filter mats can be easily replaced. Dimensions (h x w x d): 2900 mm x 3150 mm x 1100 mm

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1985, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: M20L/9019, Offer Number: M20L/9019 Machinetype: rivet header Make: Carlo Salvi Type: RF/635/SV Constr. year: 1985 diameter range: 3-6,35 mm Pgsdpfx Afsx Edtcj Sst shaft length under head: 65 mm cutting length: 87 mm output pieces/min: 360 Location: In our warehouse

Condition: excellent (used), RMS vibration exciter with power amplifier and cooling fan. Here we offer you an RMS vibration exciter with power amplifier. Psdpfx Afszdtcqo Ssgt Vibration exciter SW 1507 Max. force 2158 N Max. speed 1.3 ms Power amplifier TGA 1500 3 x 380V / 50Hz / 35A / 8 kVA Condition: used Scope of delivery: (See picture) (Changes and errors in the technical data are subject to change!) We will be happy to answer any further questions you may have by phone. Written orders can be placed by email or fax.