Used Inclined Spindle Milling Machine for sale (67,149)

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1992, Table surface area: 1850 x 710 mm Permissible table load: 3000 kg Travel ranges: Longitudinal, automatic (X): 1600 mm Lateral, automatic (Y): 710 mm Vertical, automatic (Z): 850 mm Spindle mounting: SK 50 Speed range: 20 - 2500 RPM Main motor power, AC: 15 kW Transport dimensions L x W x H: 3650 x 2300 x 2700 mm Weight: 9400 kg Accessories / Special features: • CNC path control system, manufacturer HEIDENHAIN, model TNC 360 with 3 scales • Programming language "Plain text dialog" and DIN-ISO • Electronic handwheel HEIDENHAIN HR 330 with magnetic holder • 3D probing system HEIDENHAIN TS 120 • Main spindle compact unit RAC 3 • Control system prepared for 4th axis • Universal milling head system "HURON" with 2 levels, gears run in an oil bath • Hydraulic tool clamping • Coolant system • Central lubrication with interval • German electrical system, drives INDRAMAT • Operator control panel • Operating manual - Newly refurbished milling head, partially overhauled with new gears, seals and bearings Ksdpfx Ahsttamksbedu - Oil dispenser for central lubrication renewed Operating hours: 10,032 Program runs: 3,288 Spindle ON: 2,569 Siegfried Volz Werkzeugmaschinen Rüschebrinkstr. 151-153 DE – 44143 Dortmund - Wambel / Germany

Condition: used, Technical details: x-travel: 700 mm y-travel: 250 mm z-travel: 200 mm spindle taper ISO: SK40 range of revolution per miute: Spindel 32 - 2000 / 18 step U/min spindle head swivable left - right: 90 ° table surface area: 1000x400 mm weight approx.: k.A. kg dimension machine xH: 1,6 x 1,2 x 1,9 m Kdjdpfx Asva Hfhohbju with vise *

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2009, Bernardo FM 45 V drilling and milling machine. The FM 45 V drilling and milling machine offers an optimal price-performance ratio thanks to the standard spindle feed. The dovetail guide of the gear head ensures maximum precision and stability. Drilling capacity in steel 32 mm Drilling capacity in cast iron 40 mm Throat 260 mm Kdodjvutw Hopfx Ahbsu Spindle speed (12) 50 - 2520 rpm Spindle mount MK 4 Quill stroke 120 mm Quill feed (3) 0.12 / 0.19 / 0.26 mm/rev Table size 820 x 240 mm Distance spindle / table 40 - 485 mm Travel path (x / y) 550 / 190 mm Height adjustment of milling head 400 mm T-slot size 14 mm T-slot distance 55 mm Motor output power S1 100% 0.85 / 1.1 kW (400 V) Motor input power S6 40% 1.1 / 1.5 kW (400 V) Machine dimensions (W x D x H) 1150 x 850 x 1450 mm Weight approx. 285 kg Standard with automatic spindle feed and thread cutting device Large speed range 50 - 2520 rpm (12 levels) Dovetail guide for x, y and z axes, adjustable via wedge strips Versatile application options, slot milling, face milling, boring,.... Solid large cross table, precisely surface-machined Milling: spindle feed via handwheel Drilling: spindle feed via handwheel High-quality aluminum motor, designed for continuous operation Stable and vibration-free cast design Simple and quick speed change using a gear lever Pivoting milling head for angle drilling, milling bevels, etc. Location: from stock 54634 Bitburg - available at short notice -

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2013, functionality: fully functional, KUNZMANN WF 600M Milling Machine (2013) Manufacturer: KUNZMANN Type: WF 600M Milling Machine Year of manufacture: 2013 Condition: Used X/Y/Z: 600/400/400 mm Ksdezy Srcepfx Ahbodu Spindle taper: SK 40 Milling table clamping area: 800 x 425 mm Clamping slots: 6 slots, width 14 H 7 Slot spacing: 63 mm Maximum load: 300 kg Spindle speeds S I: 1 – 1125 min-1 Spindle speeds S II: 1126 – 4500 min-1 Feed rate: 0 – 2000 mm/min Rapid traverse X and Y: 5000 mm/min Rapid traverse Z: 4000 mm/min Hydraulic clamping system Main drive motor: 5.5 kW Weight: approx. 2000 kg - Dimensions: approx. 2 x 2 x 2 m

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1994, operating hours: 1,930 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 7,200 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 4,200 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,750 mm, feed rate X-axis: 15,000 m/min, feed rate Y-axis: 15,000 m/min, feed rate Z-axis: 15,000 m/min, total length: 15,000 mm, table length: 5,000 mm, total width: 15,000 mm, spindle speed (min.): 10 rpm, spindle speed (max.): 4,000 rpm, total height: 7,500 mm, table height: 1,350 mm, distance between stands: 3,500 mm, type of input current: AC, table load: 65,000 kg, workpiece weight (max.): 65,000 kg, distance table center to spindle nose: 2,300 mm, overall weight: 210,000 kg, spindle motor power: 50,000 W, MACHINE DATA Machine type: Portal milling machine - double column for continuous 5 axis operation Manufacturer: WALDRICH COBURG Model: 15 S - 10 FPF 300 NC Year of construction: 1994 Condition: Fully refurbished 2015 Functionality: fully functional Operating hours: 2,931 h TECHNICAL DETAILS Number of controlled axes: 5 travel distance X-axis: 7,200 mm travel distance Y-axis: 4,200 mm travel distance Z-axis: 1,750 mm spindle speed (max.): 4,000 rpm working width: 3,500 mm PROVISION Machine location: Ljubljana, Slovenia Availability: now Delivery conditions: FCA Pick up at location: Ljubljana Shipping costs: upon request Planer-milling machine - double column: completely overhauled in 2014 / 2015 by Waldrich Coburg (basically everything except the casting): > New control unit > New cables > New motors > New electrics > Guideways overhauled DESCRIPTION - Heavy double-column machine for processing complex shapes - 2 pallet stations with 2 pallets (load capacity 65t each) - Machine with CNC control SIEMENS 840D sl - In 2014, conversion of the control system to SIEMENS 840D sl (incl. complete cabling and control cabinet) - in 2015 replacement of all axis motors - Various angle milling heads - NC-controlled milling head with 50 kW milling power / clamping 2.5° each with Hirth serration (type USP300C450F15S) - 2-axis NC-controlled fork head with 40 kW milling power (type UFN00SZ500) - Automatic tool changer for 76 tools (ISO 50 and 60) TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel X / Y / Z: 7,200 / 4,200 / 1,750 mm Milling width: 3,500 mm Distance spindle nose to table: 2,300 mm Milling power: 50 kW Speed: 10 - 4,000 rpm Front spindle diameter: 150 mm Spindle holder: ISO 60, ISO50 Control: Siemens 840D sl Pallet size: 3,000 x 5,000 mm Pallet load: max. 65 t Number of pallets: 2 pieces Tool changer: 76 slots Feed rate: 10 - 15,000 mm/min MACHINE DETAILS Pick-up power: 92 kW Weight: 210 t Spindle hours: 2,931 h Switch-on time: 10,870 h Bed dimensions: 12.5 x 2.3 x 0.78 m; 28.5 t Pallet dimensions: 5.35 x 3.0 x 0.4 m; 22 t Main pallet carrier dimensions: 5.1 x 2.9 x 0.5 m; 25 t Dimensions of bed section: 3.8 x 2.9 x 0.5 m; 10 t Milling spindle box dimensions: 4.1 x 1.9 x 1.5 m; 13.5 t Left/right column dimensions: 4.1 x 1.3 x 1.7 m; 10.5 t Kdjdpfx Ahsvv N I Rsbsu Exhaust air slide dimensions: 8.5 x 0.7 x 1.2 m; 1.1 t Control cabinet dimensions: 7.9 x 0.6 x 2.1 m; 2.8t THIS IS A TOP CLASS MACHINE FOR MOST ACCURATE WORK; HIGHLY EFFECTIVE. MACHINE IS ASSEMBLED AND UNDER POWER:

Condition: good (used), Machine spindle, precision spindle, double bench grinder spindle, precision spindle for belt drive, belt drive spindle, grinding spindle -Manufacturer: Voumard, Grinding spindle Precision spindle Ksdowub Ifspfx Ahbsdu -Type: C 40-9 D -Recording: M6 -Max. speed: 40,000 rpm -Dimensions: Ø 90 x 335 mm -Transport dimensions box: 480/320/H225 mm -Weight: 17.8 kg.

Condition: used, Technical details: x-travel: 1000 mm y-travel: 350 mm z-travel: 400 mm distance between column - table edge: min.150 / max. 550 mm turning speed range: 28 - 1400 / 18 step U/min tool taper: SK40 spindle head swivable left - right: 90° und vor/zurück: 45° ° feed:: X/Y-Achse: 16 - 800 / 18 step mm/min Kdjdpjv Sz Diofx Ahbou Table dimensions: 1600 x 400 mm table surface area: 1400 x 330 mm total power requirement: 14,5 kW weight approx.: 4000 kg dimension machine xH: ca. 2,0 x 2,4 x 1,85 m

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2013, x-travel 1020 mm y-travel 610 mm z-travel 610 mm Kdedpfxezzfb Hj Ahbsu control Heidenhain iTNC530

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2012, functionality: unexamined, GERIMA SMA 50P portable beveling/edge preparation machines for sale. Quantity: - 2 units Main specifications: - Manufacturer: GERIMA - Model: SMA 50P - Year: 2012 - Portable beveling/chamfering machines - Suitable for metal edge preparation and beveling applications - Supplied in transport cases Kdjdpfx Aszyah Sshbju - Inserts/accessories included, as shown in the photos Used equipment, sold as-is. Condition and completeness are shown in the photos. The listed price is for both units. Individual sale can also be arranged. Location: Estonia. Loading/collection: Forklift/pallet handling capability available on-site. Transportation is at the buyer’s expense.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1992, Technical details: x-travel: 600 mm y-travel: 400 mm z-travel: 420 mm spindle taper ISO: SK 40 control: Heidenhain TNC 360 quill stroke vertical: 75 mm turning speed range: 20 ... 4000 U/min spindle head swivable left - right: 90° links / rechts ° feed:: X/Y/Z: 1...6000 mm/min. feed:: X/Y: 7 m/min. + Z: 6 m/min. Table dimensions: 900 x 460 mm table load capacity: 400 kg weight approx.: 2300 kg dimension machine xH: 4,0 x 3,8 x 2,0 m total power requirement: 13 kW Equipment: - separated production cell - coolant system - control panel with swivel-mounted boom - measuring probe SK 40 Heidenhain TS 120 Kdodpfx Aou Nc U Iohbeu - oil collecting basin *

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1962, Spindle mounting, vertical + horizontal SK / ISO 40 Angular table clamping surface 700 x 285 mm X-axis travel 500 mm Y-axis 200 + approx. 250 mm Z-axis 400 mm Quill stroke approx. 80 mm 18 main spindle speeds 40 - 2000 rpm 18 feed speeds 8 - 400 mm/min rapid traverse 1200 mm/min drive power 2,2 kW dimensions L x W x H 1150 x 1050 x 1650 mm Machine weight 1000 kg Kdodjm Uygvopfx Ahbsu Accessories / special features: - Vertical milling head, swiveling R/L - Fixed angle clamping table - Feed + rapid traverse in all axes Siegfried Volz Machine Tools Rüschebrinkstr. 151-153 DE - 44143 Dortmund - Wambel

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2013, operating hours: 12,486 h, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 3,400 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,300 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,000 mm, spindle speed (max.): 18,000 rpm, controller model: Siemens 840D sl, TECHNICAL DETAILS Travel range X-axis: 3,400 mm Travel range Y-axis: 2,300 mm Travel range Z-axis: 1,000 mm Rapid traverse X-axis: 60 m/min Rapid traverse Y-axis: 60 m/min Rapid traverse Z-axis: 40 m/min Design: C3 swivel head Swivel range C-axis: 200° Swivel range A-axis: 120° Spindle motor power: 24 kW Spindle mounting: HSK 63 A Spindle speed: 18,000 rpm Spindle cooling: Water cooling Kdodpfx Asz Izduehbeu Design: Disc tool changer Tool magazine positions: 20 Pick-up positions: 1 Tool diameter: up to Ø 500 mm Table length: 2,000 mm Table width: 1,500 mm Table thickness: 30 mm Grid spacing: 100 x 100 mm Maximum load capacity: 2,000 kg Repeatability: approx. 0.012 mm MACHINE DETAILS CNC control: Siemens 840D sl Spindle operating time: approx. 12,486 hours Power-on hours: approx. 37,297 hours EQUIPMENT 5-axis package: included Advanced Surface: included TCP: included Control panel size: 15 inches Remote maintenance: prepared Workpiece measuring probe: m&h wireless measuring probe Tool measurement: BLUM laser Minimum quantity lubrication: internal and external lubrication Central lubrication: automatic Spray mist extraction: with electrostatic separation Full protective cabin: included Tool changing chamber: separate Technical documentation Operating manual Omlat spare spindle included

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, machine/vehicle number: 1780021272, functionality: fully functional, 3 spindle copy router elumatec KF 178/00 Top routing unit: Cutting range using stops or copy templates 340 x 100 mm Travel 110 mm Kjdpfxezy Stae Ahbjdu Bottom routing unit: Cutting range using stops or copy templates 240 x 85 mm Travel at front 95 mm Travel at back 45 mm Spindle speed 12,000 rpm Clamping range for profiles 115 x 100 mm Power supply 230/400 V, 3~, 50 Hz Power output per motor 0.74 kW Compressed air supply 7 bar Air consumption per working cycle 12 l without spraying, 24 l with spraying Length 980 mm, depth 1,250 mm, height 1,610 mm, weight 360 kg The machine is in perfect working order We can ship the machine to your address (On demand)

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2016, x-travel 1020 mm Kdjdpfx Aj Aaq T Aehbou y-travel 700 mm z-travel 500 mm control Heidenhain iTNC530

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1990, machine/vehicle number: 43655, functionality: fully functional, Horizontal cutting range using a stop 230 x 90 mm Kdsdpfx Aszz Aqlehbeu Horizontal cutting range using a copy template 230 x 90 mm Spindle speed 12,000 rpm Clamping range for profiles 180 x 130 mm Travel 110 mm Power supply 230/400 V, 3~, 50 Hz Power output 0.74 kW Compressed air supply 7 bar Air consumption per working cycle 12 l without spraying, 24 l with spraying Length 720 mm, depth 650 mm, height 1,440 mm, weight 120 kg Versatile for many applications in aluminium and PVC profile machining Precision routing with a minimum of effort and easy, two-lever operation Copy routing at a ratio of 1:1 transfers the cutting pattern from a template to the profile Your own custom templates can be created (by copying the template to a blank) Copy routing using stops is also possible (only rectangular cutting patterns) Can be set up in only a few steps Pneumatic material clamping unit Manual tracer point with three levels for different cutter diameters Pulsed coolant system The machine is ready for operation, we can ship the machine to your address.

Condition: used, total length: 1,750 mm, total width: 1,500 mm, total height: 1,450 mm, Year of manufacture: 2008 Colour: White Empty weight: 750 kg Price: On request - Year: 2008 - CE marking present: Yes - Serial number: 108/1008-3 - Main motor power [kW]: 4.0 - Number of spindles [pcs]: 2 - Max. workpiece width [mm]: 180 - Transport dimensions: 1750mm x 1500mm x 1450mm (l x w x h) - Transport weight [kg]: 750kg - Transport packages [pcs.]: 1 Kdsdpfxoych Ele Ahbju Financial information VAT: The price shown is exclusive of VAT VAT/margin: VAT deductible for entrepreneurs Delivery and trade-in always possible for everything in the industrial sectors Yorick Diebels

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1998, operating hours: 17,260 h, Table size: 1000 x 500 mm Kdsdpfoxtu H Nex Ahbou Tool holder: ISO 40 Travel paths: X-axis: 800 mm Y-axis: 500 mm Z-axis: 420 mm Distance between horizontal spindle axis and table: 210 – 630 mm Distance between vertical spindle nose and table: 130 – 550 mm Table load capacity: max. 500 kg Speed range: 50 - 4000 rpm Feed rate (infinitely variable): 5 - 2000 mm/min Rapid traverse in all axes: 8 m/min Vertical milling head, swiveling: ± 90° Manual quill stroke adjustment: 100 mm Drive power: 7.5 kW Dimensions (L x W x H): approx. 3000 x 2400 x 1975 mm Weight: approx. 3000 kg Accessories / Special features: • CNC contouring control HEIDENHAIN TNC 410 • Electronic handwheel HEIDENHAIN HR 410 • SIEMENS AC servo drives • Data interface V 24 / RS 232 • Swiveling vertical milling head ± 90° right & left with 100 mm quill adjustment • Hydraulic tool clamping, vertical & horizontal, ISO 40 • Swivel-away device for the vertical milling head • Very wide speed range up to 4,000 rpm • Vibration-free operation thanks to rigid and heavily ribbed cast iron guideways • Ball screws for X, Y, and Z axes • All electrical control elements on one side, in a movable control panel • Fixed angle table with foldable chip guard • Coolant system integrated in the machine base • Hydraulic unit • Central lubrication • CE compliant Operating hours: 17,256 Spindle hours: 3,816 Image: shows brochure photo Siegfried Volz Werkzeugmaschinen Rüschebrinkstr. 151-153 DE - 44143 Dortmund - Wambel / Germany

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2006, Milling spindle unit SEMA SE 100, e.g. for the production of crankshafts Kdodeddzi Ajpfx Ahbsu Spindle mounting: flange Speed with this gearbox: 97 rpm Spindle designed for up to 3000 rpm Drive power, currently: 22 kW The milling spindle is designed for up to 25 kW Bearing diameter: 110 mm Disc cutter SANDVIK Ø 700 x 25 mm Plunge depth of the disc cutter: 235 mm Accessories / Special features: - Disc cutter SANDVIK Ø 700 x 25 mm - Lubricated-for-life spindle bearings - Robust construction with hardened and ground spindle - High precision - 2-fold bearing of the spindle with 5 spindle bearings - WZ clamping via flange Original new price at the time: approx. €34,500.00 net Siegfried Volz Werkzeugmaschinen Rüschebrinkstr. 151-153 D - 44143 Dortmund - Wambel

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2024, Panhans swivel milling machine type: 245/20 Solid German engineering Table milling machine with one-sided swiveling fixed milling spindle for the swivel range from -5° to +45.5° Positioning control for height and swivel adjustment with height zeroing and offset measurement travel Electronic position and speed displays 4 speeds 3000 / 4500 / 6000 / 9000 rpm Quick belt tensioning device Push button for spindle start and stop Left and right rotation Milling cutter quick clamping device Finely planed gray cast iron table with rigid frame support Lower control panel on rigid frame support Milling fence 216 total adjustment via handwheel and LCD display incl. cast fence plates and aluminum splitter tongues Machine socket Lockable main switch Mechanical motor brake Milling protection and pressure device GAMMA V 1629 Arc milling fence 1639 Tapoa Milling spindle 30 mm, non-replaceable CE-compliant GS tested Table size 1100 x 760 mm Table height 870 mm Milling spindle not exchangeable 30 mm Clamping height 140 mm Height adjustment 125 mm Suction nozzle 2 x Ø 120 mm Speed 3000 / 4500 / 6000 / 9000 rpm Color RAL 7035 light grey and RAL 5000 violet blue Net weight approx. 800 kg Kodpfsr Ig H Tox Ahbjdu Equipment: Top control panel Swivel +-45 degrees Motor 7.5 Kw Centerx Extendable frame support Location: ex stock 54634 Bitburg - immediately available -

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1998, x-travel 600 mm y-travel 430 mm z-travel 460 mm Control MSD-501 Kdjdpfxs Aaq Ume Ahbsu table surface area 900 x 500 mm T-slots (number x width x distance) 5 x 18 x 100 mm table load capacity 500 kg Spindle nose table removal 150 - 610 mm spindle tunring speed 12.000 U/min torque 166,7 Nm tool taper BT 40 number of tool places 30 Pos. max. tool diameter 80 mm max. tool-dia with free toolbox 125 mm max. tool length 300 mm max. tool weight 8 kg Feed ( x / y / z) 16.000 mm/min rapid traverse ( x / y / z ) 32.000 mm/min The machine is from its First owner and has low operating hours. It is very well maintained and can be inspected under power by appointment. Technical features & accessories: - Internal coolant system - Tool measurement - 30-position tool changer BT 40 Accessories, tools, and clamping devices shown are only included if explicitly stated in the additional information. Technical data and specifications are subject to change without notice. Prior sale reserved.

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1999, travel distance X-axis: 3,000 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 2,500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,150 mm, Control: Siemens 840 D Powerline Tool holder: HSK-A63 Max. rpm: 16,000 X-travel: 3,000 mm Y-travel: 2,500 mm Z-travel: 1,150 mm A-axis: +/- 100 mm C-axis: +/- 181.5 mm Table size: 3,000 mm x 2,500 mm Kods Aaxltjpfx Ahbedu Option: External blowing air Kinematics: Fork head

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1991, travel distance X-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 400 mm, X-travel: 560 mm Y-travel: 500 mm Z-travel: 400 mm Control: TNC 360 Spindle speed: 40-4,000 rpm Total power requirement: 7.5 kW Machine weight approx.: 2.6 t Kdedpfx Aj Aaxpfohbou Space requirement approx.: 2.6 x 1.8 x 2.2 m

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 1995, functionality: fully functional, Control system: Heidenhain iTNC 530 Operating hours: 54631 h Ksdpfezufi Rsx Ahbodu X-axis 3500 mm Y-axis 1000 mm Z-axis 900 mm Drive power 30 kW Speed range 20–3800 rpm Rapid traverse 15 m/min Feed rate 4 m/min Clamping surface 2x 1600 x 960 mm Max. table load 2 x 4000 kg Machine weight (approx.) 21 t Machine dimensions (WxDxH) 10770 x 4100 x 3150 mm Technical data / Accessories Universal bed-type milling and boring machine Milling head position: Vertical, horizontal (top, center, left, right) Heidenhain TS 120 3D touch probe Kekeisen TW 32 drum-type tool changer Knoll hinged-belt chip conveyor

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2012, functionality: fully functional, Kunzmann WF 600 M milling machine (2012) Kdsdpfx Asztxndohbeu Manufacturer: Kunzmann Type: WF 600 M Year of manufacture: 2012 Condition: used, very good Control: Heidenhain TNC 124 X-axis 600 mm Y-axis 400 mm Z-axis 400 mm Table length 650 mm Table width 350 mm Spindle speed 4500 rpm Vertical spindle and horizontal spindle - SK40 Hydraulic tightening system Main drive motor: 5.5 kW Dimensions approx.: 2 x 2 x 2 m Weight approx. 2000 kg Coolant system Scope of delivery: - Documentation - Machine light - Machine feet - Machine vice

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1997, machine/vehicle number: 11968, travel distance X-axis: 630 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 500 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 500 mm, overall weight: 6,000 kg, Used HERMLE universal milling machine model U 630 S, year of manufacture 1997, equipped with Heidenhain TNC 410 control and full safety enclosure. Travels: X = 630 mm, Y = 500 mm, Z = 500 mm Table size: 900 x 528 mm, 7x T-slots 14 mm, spindle taper SK40 DIN 69871 Speeds: Gear stage 1 = 20–1,428.6 rpm, gear stage 2 = 1,428.6–7,000 rpm. Kjdpfx Ahoygwz Robodu Separate coolant tank 120 litres, Heidenhain electronic handwheel HS410, Heidenhain measuring probe TS 220 Includes mobile tool trolley for SK40 tool holders with approx. 80 tool holders included. The machine is located at our premises in 71334 Waiblingen-Beinstein and can be inspected by appointment.