Used Shw Shw Powerspeed 4000 for sale (2,534)

Condition: new, empty load weight: 9,028 kg, maximum load weight: 26,972 kg, overall weight: 36,000 kg, axle configuration: 3 axles, loading space volume: 70 m³, suspension: air, tire size: 425/65R22,5, Equipment: ABS, | Knapen K-200 moving floor with folding roof | agricultural trailer 70m3 load volume | BPW axles with drum brakes | 10-ton axles | self-steering axle on the third axle | hydraulic tailgate | lift axle | 10mm floor | toolbox | cargo floor, Powerspeed system | tire pressure sensors | errors excepted. Itsdpfxsw Agv Ds Aa Eji

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1996, machine/vehicle number: 7/4986, Capacity: 250 - 400 ton V – Ring nominal force: 20 - 200 ton Counter ram nominal force: 10 - 100 ton Ram stroke: 30 - 200 mm V-Ring stroke: 40 mm Counter ram stroke: 40 mm Daylight: 760 mm Ram surface: 800 x 800 mm Table surface: 810 x 1000 mm Max. die size: 765 x 760 x 610 mm Number of strokes: 40 s.p.m. Approach speed: 120 mm / sec Return speed: 135 mm / sec Working speed: 5 - 50 mm / sec Isdpfxouqdxij Aa Esti Die Weight total: 2400 kg Standard configuration Automation roll-off try with leveller

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 2008, Technical specifications: Turning diameter over bed: 1000 mm Turning diameter over cross slide: 680 mm Center height: 500 mm Distance between centers: 4000 mm CNC control: FAGOR 8055T (new) Max. spindle speed: 0 - 1600 RPM Spindle bore diameter: 104 mm Spindle diameter: 150 mm Bed width: 550 mm Spindle nose: DIN 55026 / 11" Max. workpiece weight: 4,800 kg Rapid traverse rate X-axis: 8 m/min Itedpfszfvqmox Aa Eoi Rapid traverse rate Z-axis: 8 m/min Tailstock travel: 300 mm Tailstock quill diameter: 140 mm Motor power: 34.5 kW CE marking Dimensions (length x width x height): approx. 8250 x 3250 x 2950 mm Weight: approx. 10.5 tons Condition: Very good condition, only used sparingly The seller is not liable for typographical or data transmission errors. The machine's appearance, technology, and wear and tear are commensurate with its age; used machines are sold without any warranty. The stated prices are always net prices.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, With this listing, you are purchasing a used “Canon imagePROGRAF GP-4000” production system. Item for sale: 1 x Canon imagePROGRAF GP-4000 Meter readings: Total: Approx. 4512.7 (m2) Condition: This listing is for a used device, which may show signs of wear Iodpfxezb Akgs Aa Esti (minor scratches or yellowing). The device has been tested for functionality. A test print can be seen in the photo. Packaging and Shipping: You are welcome to view the device during our business hours. Please schedule an appointment! Sea-worthy packaging and worldwide shipping are available upon request! Before shipping or pickup, we’ll record a video of a functional test for you. For more information, please feel free to contact us directly.

Condition: new, driver cabin: other, gearing type: other, Other: Itodpezfituefx Aa Eoi * Trade-in and purchase of vehicles and machines possible. * Sales price excluding transportation and transfer. * No liability for printing & typing errors. * Errors, changes and prior sale reserved. * Offer subject to change. * Photos may differ. Price applies to existing condition. * All information without guarantee. - .

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 2026, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, DGUV certified until: 07/2027, electrical fuse: 16 A, opening width: 30 mm, working width: 475 mm, space requirement height: 580 mm, space requirement length: 940 mm, space requirement width: 2,055 mm, type of input current: three-phase, +++ NEW Dough Sheeter Rondo STM 5304 NEW +++ Simple manual operation Suitable for all types of dough for sheeting and lamination Tables can be folded up Sheeting thickness from 0.3 to 30 mm TOP dough sheeter with canvas belts Belt width up to 475 mm Roller width 500 mm Table sheeter with a table length of 2055 mm Electrical system according to VDE standard Only available from us, DGUV V3 certified Dimensions: 2055/850 x 940 x 580 mm L x W x H in working / rest position Connection 400V, 16A-CEE plug NEW machine & SAB tested With warranty + spare parts service Optional: Maintenance contract Service package Spare parts box Delivery service Instruction and commissioning Itodpfx Aasyalbfe Esi We have a TOP selection of dough sheeters!

Condition: used, Parallel Lathe SCULFORT type MAXICAP SENIOR 380 x 4000 RN Between points: 4000 mm Maxi Ø on bench: Ø 780 mm Maxi Ø over saddle: Ø 580 mm (rear trolley dismantled) - Ø 500 mm (without rear trolley dismantled) Maxi diameter in brocken bed: Ø 1160 mm Width in brocken bed: 400 mm Itjdpozd Slwsfx Aa Eoi Spindle: Ø 80 mm Spindle speed: from 16 to 1280 RPM Square turret 3-jaws chuck Ø 400 mm Threadings: Metric + Withworth 3 points steady max Ø 350 mm Tailstock CM6 Motor power: 13 CV Feeds: auto transverse + longitudinal Clutch rapid used Lubricant tank Dimensions (L x W x H): 6500 x 1800 x 1900 mm Weight: approx 7 T

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1972, functionality: fully functional, grinding length: 4,000 mm, grinding width: 500 mm, spindle speed (max.): 1,400 rpm, overall weight: 11,000 kg, TECHNICAL DETAILS Max. grinding length: 4,000 mm Max. grinding width: 500 mm Itjdpfozd Rqljx Aa Eoi Max. distance between table and spindle center: 900 mm Table speed: 3 - 25 m/min Spindle speed: 1,400 rpm Grinding spindle motor: 11 kW Dimensions of magnetic clamping plates: 4 x 1,000 x 500 mm MACHINE DETAILS Weight: approx. 11 tons EQUIPMENT Including complete electrical system Permanent magnet plate Cast iron bed (overhauled in 2011) New hydraulics and digital Z-axis Swiveling spindle

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1997, travel distance X-axis: 3,708 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 1,208 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 1,002 mm, feed length X-axis: 5,000 mm, feed length Y-axis: 5,000 mm, feed length Z-axis: 5,000 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 15 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 15 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 15 m/min, spindle speed (max.): 3,000 rpm, spindle speed (min.): 35 rpm, CNC Bed-Type Milling Machine – Universal ZAYER 20 KF 4000 Year of manufacture: 1997 CNC control: HEIDENHAIN TNC 426/430 Technical specifications: Isdpswtpfpofx Aa Eoti X travel: 3708 mm Y travel: 1208 mm Z travel: 1002 mm Table size: 4000 x 1000 mm Tool holder: SK 50 Spindle speeds: 35–3000 rpm Spindle motor: 22 kW Feed range: 6–5000 mm/min Rapid traverse: 15 m/min Machine weight: approx. 19.5 t ADDITIONAL INFORMATION Electronic handwheel Automatically swivelling milling head vertical/horizontal +/-120° (stepless) Milling head automatically swivelling in the rear axis / 90° rotation Coolant system The machine can be inspected under power. Delivery time: immediately Sale from location Westerkappeln Dismantling, loading available on request.

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, Top quality made from high-strength structural steel Q355, including plasma nitriding and calibration. 3D perforated table 4000 x 2000 x 200mm, 100mm grid, plate thickness 20mm, hole diameter 28mm. Surface finish machined, very robust, weight approx. 2400 kg. With table base, adjustable in 8 positions. Price excludes accessory set, surcharge €500. Packed in a wooden crate, shipping on request. The stated price refers to the table in standard version without plasma nitriding (last 4 pictures). Price for high-strength steel Q355, stainless and impact-resistant including plasma nitriding: surcharge €1800 (as shown). Itjdpfeyg Ex Dex Aa Esi

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, load capacity: 4,000 kg, table load: 4,000 kg, faceplate diameter: 1,000 mm, 3-axis turning and tilting positioner with 4-ton load capacity Clamping plate 1000 mm Extension arm/radius 2000 mm (better price at 1500 mm) Height adjustment min. 1250 mm – max. 2000 mm Table rotation speed 0.05 – 0.5 rpm Hydraulic lifting speed 1000 mm/min Rotation range 360° Tilting range ±360° Itsdowwinrjpfx Aa Eoi Handheld remote control (foot control available upon request) Special equipment possible

Condition: ready for operation (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2020, operating hours: 10,500 h, power: 308 kW (418.76 HP), motor manufacturer: Mercedes, gearing type: other, maximum speed: 50 km/h, first registration: 08/2026, next inspection (TÜV): 08/2026, color: green, overall weight: 18,000 kg, front tire size: 710/75 R42, rear tire size: 710/75 R42, total height: 3,941 mm, total length: 7,593 mm, machine/vehicle number: WCLT7830078300894, Equipment: additional headlights, air conditioning, cabin, front power take-off, front-end loader, hydraulics, lighting, Engine Mercedes-Benz, 6-cylinder, Tier 4 Final, 10,600 cm³ Rated power / maximum power according to 97/68/EC 308 kW / 419 hp Maximum torque 2,100 Nm Diesel fuel tank 740 L AdBlue tank 90 L ⸻ Transmission 50 km/h ZF ECCOM 4.5 stepless transmission ⸻ Hydraulics Load-sensing pump with 120 L oil tank, 195 L/min 4 hydraulic control valves, 105 L/min from the hydraulic valves Direct hydraulic connection from pump to control valves plus pressure-free return line ⸻ Cabin XERION TRAC VC rotating cabin Mechanical cabin suspension Air seat with heating and seat belt ⸻ Electrical system TELEMATICS Advanced 1-year licence Remote diagnostics 5-year licence Communication module: UMTS ⸻ Rear linkage and PTO Rear PTO 1,000 rpm 1 3/4”, D = 45 mm, 20 splines ⸻ Additional equipment Work lights: 6 front and 8 rear Wide vehicle equipment up to 3.0 m Technical documentation 2-line air brakes ⸻ Tyres 710/75 R42 175D, 172E Trelleborg ⸻ Other Standard ignition keys ⸻ Itodpozdr Eqsfx Aa Esi Technical data and maintenance Length: 7,593 mm Height: 3,791 to 3,941 mm Wheelbase: 3,600 mm

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, CUTTING , TRIMMING SAW machine for solid wood model MZ PROJECT LC 4000 automatic machine second hand machine CE regulation: YES end-cutting of boards using a motorized rear roller conveyor with automatic stop and an idle front roller conveyor lengthwise cutting of solid wood planks and panels mm.4000 . depth: mm.1500 with automatic pusher (CN). Maximum cutting width: mm.1500 conditions of use: Excellent. maximum cutting length: mm.4000 motor power: Hp 15 total weight: kg. 3.000 Itodpfx Ajzdqxcoa Eoi volts: 380/50

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, We are selling a used Bucher Gmeiner STA 4000 TC spreader from year of manufacture 2004. 2-chamber spreader, cone-sealing hydraulic couplings, support legs, and control panel. Further details available on request. Location: 94491 Hengersberg. Iodjyq Audjpfx Aa Eoti

Condition: refurbished (used), Year of construction: 2025, Schaudt PF61 1000 - 4000 Grinding length: 1,000 / 2,000 / 3,000 / 4,000 mm Center height: 260 mm Additional options available for selection: - Completely new control cabinet with Siemens Sinumerik One or Fanuc 0iTF-Plus control - Quick setup via GSN operator interface - Diatronic measuring system - B-axis freely positionable - Second external grinding wheel Itjdoiqxt Hepfx Aa Eji - Internal grinding unit - Center height adjustment - Dressing spindle for diamond form roller - Balancing and truing sensor - Hydraulic clamping/releasing of the tailstock - Automatic Siemens door drive - 19" / 22" screen - Remote maintenance - Conversion to needle nozzles - Matching coolant/extraction system - Automation preparation - and much more We can also overhaul your existing grinding machine! Schaudt / Studer / Kellenberger / Bahmüller / Voumard / Overbeck / Fortuna / Tacchella and more.

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2014, power: 8 kW (10.88 HP), platform length: 4,100 mm, overall weight: 2,850 kg, transport length: 5,700 mm, transport width: 1,330 mm, transport height: 1,300 mm, construction height: 1,300 mm, Equipment: CE marking, The WORK SP 4000 CNC butt welding machine for plastic sheets is manufactured by the Czech company METAL WORKING CZ, s.r.o. It was produced in 2014, is in excellent condition, and comes with a spare Teflon coating. This is a high-tech industrial machine with CNC control, designed for the precise welding of thermoplastic sheets and panels. The main technical parameters and features of this machine series include: Main technical parameters: Maximum working width (welding length): 4000 mm, allowing for the processing of very large plastic sheets. Thickness of materials to be welded: Typically in the range of 2 mm to 25–30 mm (depending on the specific modification and type of plastic). Compatible materials: Thermoplastic sheets made of PE (polyethylene), PP (polypropylene), PVDF (polyvinylidene fluoride), and PVC (polyvinyl chloride). Welding type: Butt-welding with a heating element, using the heated element / hot plate welding method. Control and CNC functionality: Fully automatic cycle: The CNC control precisely manages all phases of the welding process: preheating, transfer time, welding pressure creation, and cooling time. Material database: A system with pre-set welding parameters according to international standards (e.g., DVS standards for welding plastics). Data logging: Automatic generation and recording of welding protocols for quality control (containing information on pressure, temperature, and cycle duration). Advantages of the design: High mechanical stability: A massive steel frame ensures even distribution of pressure along the entire length of the 4-meter sheet. Hydraulic system: Precise adjustment of the clamping force, guaranteeing a homogeneous weld seam without internal stresses. Teflon coating: The heating element is equipped with a high-quality non-stick coating for easy cleaning and to prevent material burning. Itodpfx Aaszdiz No Eei Length: 5700 mm Width: 1330 mm Height: 1300 mm Weight: 2850 kg Working length: 4100 mm Working height of the machine: 950 mm Minimum thickness of the plastic sheet: 4 mm Maximum thickness of the plastic sheet: 40 mm Machine power: 8 kW Operating voltage - electrical circuits: 3 PEN 50Hz 400/230V Air consumption: 0.8 m³/h Minimum pneumatic pressure: 0.8 MPa Maximum pneumatic pressure: 1.0 MPa Standard for electrical equipment: EN 60204-1 Applicable basic and technical standards: See Chapter 3.3 of the manual Maximum noise level at the workstation: 70 dB If you have any further questions or need more information, please send us a message or call.

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, Year of construction: 2011, controller model: Rexroth IndraMotion MTX, laser type: CO₂ laser, laser power: 4,000 W, punching force: 22 t, Equipment: CE marking, nozzle changer, safety light barrier, Standard Equipment: Machine - Work area 3050 x 1550 mm - Robust, easily accessible C-frame - Coordinate guidance for highly precise machining - Linear magazine with 21 tool positions and 4 clamping claws - Drives with maintenance-free three-phase motors - Repositioning device with programmable clamping system - Foot pedal for closing clamping claws - Ball tables - Two parts collection containers - Chip container - Initial oil fill - Transport and assembly device - ContourLine - FocusLine - NitroLine Itjdpfx Aoza A Hlja Eji - FastLine - FlyLine - PlasmaLine - Additional Xp and Yp axes - Ejection cylinder for laser parts - Quick flap for laser parts 500 x 500 mm including sensor for part chute - Liftable laser cutting support - Slug detection TRUMPF Laser - Laser TruFlow 2700 with LensLine and optimized standby mode - High-frequency excitation - Cooling unit - Laser control system TASC - Enclosed beam guidance - Beam pipe ventilation with compressed air Cutting Head - Lens cutting head with 170 mm focal length - Universal cutting head quick-change device UTI with bus connection - ControlLine Programming - Extended workshop programming (TruTops via network access) Punching Station - Electro-hydraulic punching head - Rotating mono-tool holder - Tool length compensation - Programmable clamping system with manually adjustable clamping force - Stroke counter for punch - Spray lubrication for punch - Punch slug extraction - Deflection detection - Flap for punching parts 500 x 500 mm including sensor for part chute - Reaching the fill level in the punching console - Level monitoring for thread forming and tool lubrication Control System - TRUMPF control system based on Rexroth IndraMotion MTX - External control panel with 15" TFT touchscreen - Hard drive with 160 GB storage capacity - Integrated technology data - Teleservice via internet - Integrated e-shop - Programmable cutting gas pressure - Automatic shutdown - Production plan Data Transfer - Network connection RJ45 and USB interface Safety - CE marking - Dual light curtains - Monitoring system for gas pressure, temperature, coolant, among others - Quick stop - Protection against scattered radiation - Compact dust extraction system - TruFlow 4000 including LensLine - Automatic nozzle changer - MultiTool function - MultiShear function - MultiBend function - Thread forming function - Deburring and rolling technology - Active die - StripLine - Adaptive stroke calibration - Spray lubrication for die - 4 individually opening clamping claws - Repositioning cylinder - Vibration-damped mounting - Chip conveyor with tipping container - Brush tables with loading and unloading assistance - Blowing device for small parts Automation: SheetMaster - Suction frame 3000 x 1500 mm with 36 suction cups (y-axis = 400 mm) - Adjustable suction rails (v-axis = 120 mm) - Peeling suction - Vacuum sensor for each suction cup - Sheet thickness sensor for double sheet detection - Automatic clamping claw closing on machine - Central lubrication - Main-time parallel loading and unloading of SheetMaster - Unloading monitoring GripMaster special arrangement 4m: - Scrap grid tongs with sensor - Scissor lift table 400 mm

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, HIGH-PRESSURE PUMP HT SERVO-JET4000 A well thought-out principle with great effect. HIGH-PRESSURE PUMP HT SERVO-JET4000 A well thought-out principle with great effect. + Up to 40 % energy savings compared to conventional systems, Investment eligible for subsidies + High energy efficiency: servo direct drive, no reactive current, low and and flexible power consumption + Low connected load required: no power consumption when the WSS system is at a standstill of the WSS system, suitable for companies with low energy supply Iedju Hz Tqjpfx Aa Eeti + 3-piston plunger pump: high liter capacity and high efficiency of up to 98 %, replaces 6000 bar technology, long maintenance intervals, simple design, no hydraulic system, no warm-up and start-up phase - ready to start immediately + Permanent pressure control and integrated pulsation damping: Continuous readjustment of the cutting pressure to the set value - no pressure fluctuations, higher cutting speed than with a pressure intensifier in a comparable combination + Lowest noise level of 75 dB: high-quality complete unit with soundproof housing + Can be used universally for all waterjet machines and brands

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2004, travel distance X-axis: 1,600 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 600 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 500 mm, controller manufacturer: Fanuc, overall weight: 9,000 kg, table length: 825 mm, table width: 625 mm, controller model: 21i MB, Travelling Bridge CNC Vertical Machining Centre Table size (2) 825 x 625 mm. Number of pallets: 2 Movement x-Axis 1600 mm. Movement y-Axis 600 mm. Movement z-Axis 500 mm. 4th Axis (Rotary table) NC Itodpfxszavluj Aa Esi Max table load 1200 kg Number of tools in magazine 51 pieces. Maximum spindle speed 12.000 R/pm. Tool taper DIN 69871A CNC control Fanuc 21i MB If you have any questions concerning the machine, please do not hesitate to contact us by phone or e-mail. Feel free to view our other advertisements for a complete overview of our stock.

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2003, pressing force: 138 t, number of axes: 6, This 6-axis GASPARINI PBS 1 125/4000 FP was manufactured in 2003. It features a bending width of 4000 mm and a press force of 135 tons. With 4 back gauge axes (x, r, z1, and z2), this machine offers enhanced precision for your bending applications. If you are looking to get high-quality bending capabilities, consider the GASPARINI PBS 1 125/4000 FP press brake we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Backgauge: 4 axes (X, R, Z1, Z2) • Press force: 135 t • Bending width: 4000 mm Technical Specification Bending Length 4000 mm Ijdpfxezaufto Aa Eeti

Condition: used, functionality: fully functional, Guillotine Shear Brand: SAGITA Capacity: 4000 x 8 mm Ijdpfx Asynglnoa Eeti Backgauge capacity: 1100 mm Dimensions: 4750 x 2250 x 1850 mm Weight: 12 t Blade gap adjustment ELGO backgauge Rear sheet support

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 2005, clamping force: 4,000 kN, overall weight: 22,500 kg, Hydraulic injection moulding machine manufactured in 2005. This Arburg SELECTA 820 S 4000 - 3200 features a clamping force of 4000 kN and an opening stroke of 700 mm. The machine has a platen size of 1171 x 1171 mm and a maximum moving platen weight of 4500 kg. If you are looking to get high-quality injection moulding capabilities, consider the Arburg SELECTA 820 S 4000 - 3200 machine we have for sale. Contact us for further details. • Quantity available: 4 • Clamping unit: • Opening force: 100 kN • Opening stroke: 700 mm • Minimum mould height: 350 mm • Maximum daylight: 1550 mm • Tie bar spacing: 820 x 820 mm • Platen size: 1171 x 1171 mm • Max. moving platen weight: 4500 kg • Ejector force: 100 kN • Ejector stroke: 250 mm • Injection unit: • Screw diameter: 70 mm • Screw L/D ratio: 23 / 20 / 18 • Max. screw stroke: 320 mm • Shot volume: 1323 / 1608 / 2036 cm³ • Max. shot weight (PS): 1215 / 1469 / 1860 g • Injection pressure: 2500 / 2000 / 1530 bar • Injection rate: 304 / 396 / 502 cm³/s • Screw speed: 350 rpm • Screw peripheral speed: 65 / 75 / 80 m/min • Screw torque: 2247 Nm • Nozzle contact force: 110 kN • Nozzle stroke: 600 mm • Drive and power: • Hydraulic pump motor: 55 kW • Total installed power: 96.2 kW • Heating: • Cylinder heating capacity: 6 zones (5500 + 4300 W) Itsdey A Ny Espfx Aa Eji • Nozzle heating: 1250 W • Oil tank capacity: 590 l

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2026, functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: 2026, input voltage: 400 V, input frequency: 50 Hz, DGUV certified until: 07/2027, electrical fuse: 16 A, opening width: 30 mm, working width: 475 mm, space requirement height: 580 mm, space requirement length: 940 mm, space requirement width: 1,560 mm, type of input current: three-phase, NEW +++ Dough Sheeter Rondo ECONOM 4000 +++ NEW TOP MODEL: STM 5303 simple manual operation for all types of dough for sheeting and laminating tables can be folded up sheeting thickness from 0.3 to 30 mm dough sheeter with linen belts table sheeter with a table length of 1560 mm DGUV V3 certified – available only from us Dimensions: 1560/670 x 940 x 580 mm L x W x H in working/rest position Connection: 400V, 16A-CEE plug NEW machine & SAB certified with warranty + spare parts service Optional: Maintenance contract Service package Ijdpfxsyakk Es Aa Eoti Spare parts box Delivery service Instruction & commissioning

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2007, Koenig Mini Rex 4000 bun roll machine 2-pocket drum and pistons SKG54-AKG70 Isdpfx Aasvpvv Is Esti weight range 25-140 grams cap. pcs/h 4000 year of build 2007

Condition: excellent (used), Year of construction: 1999, Technical specifications: Max. cutting width: 4050 mm Max. cutting capacity for steel: 0.5 - 8.0 mm Max. cutting capacity for stainless steel: 6.0 mm Motor-adjustable parallel stop: 1000 mm Programmable cutting gap adjustment Programmable cutting angle adjustment NC control: AMADA OPE1 Itodpfx Aaszcyn Se Eoi Sheet metal holding function Motor power: 15 kW Dimensions (length x width x height): approx. 4800 x 2200 x 2150 mm Weight: approx. 12 tons The seller is not liable for typographical or data transmission errors. The machine's appearance, technology, and wear and tear are consistent with its age; used machines are sold without any warranty.