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Condition: used, Year of construction: 1994,

Condition: good (used), mileage: 243,334 km, power: 162 kW (220.26 HP), first registration: 12/2015, fuel type: diesel, tire size: 225/75R17.5, axle configuration: 4x2, fuel: diesel, color: red, driver cabin: day cab, gearing type: mechanical, number of gears: 6, emission class: euro6, suspension: steel-air, Year of construction: 2015,

Condition: excellent (used), Kemper SPK 75 Spiral Mixer - used - capacity: 120 kg dough (approx. 180 liters) - 2 speeds - 2 timers - bowl guard - left and right bowl rotation - refurbished - warranty - collection from warehouse/shipping option Kodpfx Ageymdbdjzowu - price on request

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1981, Automatic Long Goods Storage System Kwjdpfxeymda Hs Agzju Storage system Storage length approx. 27 m Storage height approx. 6 m Number of cassettes approx. 520 Load capacity per cassette approx. 1,200 kg Cassette Dimensions approx. 3,490 x 505 mm Cassette table DEMAG Total load capacity approx. 1,800 kg Travel speed approx. 60 / 16 / 2.5 m/min Lifting speed approx. 11 / 1.1 m/min Extraction speed approx. 40 / 10 m/min Extraction force at cassette gripper approx. 600 N Voltage 380 V

Condition: used, Holz Her Auriga 1308 FÜ + PU Compact design – Edge thickness 0.4 – 6 mm SPS screen control Edge-Control PPC 221 color display Pre-milling unit for prepping before the gluing station Fully automatic edge magazine for both roll and strip materials GLU-JET adhesive application station for EVA and PUR glue, suitable for cartridges or granules + PU Adhesive application via nozzle technology Workpiece height 6–65 mm Automatic glue height adjustment 1912-3 pneumatic pressure unit 1918 pneumatic end-trimming unit for roll and strip material, edge thickness up to 8 mm Pneumatic adjustment from 0–10° for miter saw angle 1827 MOT 4 milling unit for flush trimming (8 mm), radius and chamfer milling – 15°; 1827 MOT NC-controlled axes via control panel 1832 SPS corner rounding unit for rounding edges up to 3 mm edge thickness in through-feed Scraper unit for chamfers and radii with 2 motorized scraper holders Surface scraper unit – finishing Spray system – PU Complete DIA tool package included Machine is FULLY REFURBISHED and in TOP CONDITION Kjdpfjymdayjx Agzowu Available from stock in Lieboch

Condition: good (used), Year of construction: 2005, General Technical Data: Kwjdpfxoymdats Agzou Printing width: 1050 mm Material width: 1100 mm Print repeat: 350 – 750 mm Mechanical speed: up to 400 m/min Materials: PE, PP, OPP, PET, Paper Unwinder: • Turret unwinder, non-stop • Max. roll diameter: 1000 mm • Expanding shafts: 3”, 5” Winder: • Dual winding shaft with dancing rollers • Max. roll diameter: 1000 mm • Expanding shafts: 3”, 5” Drying System: • Gas drying, natural gas Inking System: • 10 pneumatic pumps Control & Equipment: • Motorized longitudinal register • Doctor blade system • Video inspection system: BST • Web guides before CI and before winder • Dancing roller system • New BST IPQ print control/view system (installed 2023) Retrofit (2022): • Main OCS computer replaced • Valve island for CI replaced • Valve island for winder and rewinder replaced Additional Equipment: • Spare Rexroth motors for printing shaft and anilox roller • 2 carbon printing shafts Compliance: • EC Declaration of Conformity • CE marked

Condition: new, functionality: fully functional, jaw width: 20 mm, jaw height: 19 mm, Flat EDM Vice Brand: Matchling Type: 30098-10 V2075 Kjdpfx Aeymdamegzjwu Length: 125 mm, width: 100 mm, height: 20 mm (without spindle) Material: stainless steel Jaw width: 20 mm Clamping range: up to 75 mm Jaw height: 19 mm Down-hold feature Corrosion resistant Supplied in wooden case

Condition: reconditioned (used), Year of construction: 2009, Mini Rex Futura Dough Divider - year of manufacture: 2009 - after overhaul - weight range: 20–135 g - maximum output: 4,000 pcs/h - electronic control - on castors Kedpfx Aeymdagjgzswu - stainless steel housing - hopper, chamber, dividing and rounding elements Teflon-coated - power supply: 400 V - collection from warehouse/shipping option - 6 months warranty - price on request

Condition: good (used), Technical data for the pallet rack beam: Racking system manufacturer: Jungheinrich Type: MPB Scope of delivery includes: 01x Pallet rack beam, used Material color: RAL 1007 Daffodil Yellow Box profile: 80 x 50 mm Beam type: AUF'B'E0488 Connector: 4 HK (hooks) Clear span: 2,700 mm Maximum load per pair of beams: 1,600 kg, with evenly distributed load. 02x Locking pins, used Design: fully galvanized For securing the longitudinal beams To prevent unintentional removal Your contacts at our company: Mr. Andre Evering Kwjdoymdaaspfx Agzju Mr. Mario Klöver Mr. Falk Deutsch General information about the item: This item is offered for collection only. Should additional transport or shipping be required, this will incur extra costs, which can be provided separately depending on the delivery location and scope. Please contact us for a quote.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2015, CMZ TA 20 Y-400 Swing over bed / cross slide: 760 / 600 mm Maximum turning diameter: 460 mm Distance between spindle and tailstock: 473 mm Axes travels X / Y / Z / B: 310 / +70 / −50 / 640 / 640 mm Rapid traverse speeds X / Z / B: 30 m/min Rapid traverse speed Y: 15 m/min Main spindle: Maximum speed: 4,000 rpm Kedjymc U Aopfx Agzewu Power: 22 / 15 kW at 366 / 286 Nm Bearing diameter outer / inner: 150 / 100 mm Spindle bore: 73 mm Bar capacity: 66 mm Chuck diameter: 210 mm Tailstock: Quill stroke: 400 mm Tool turret: 12 stations, all driven Maximum speed: 12,000 rpm Power: 11.3 / 8.1 kW Maximum torque: 75 Nm CNC control: FANUC 32i TB Voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz Connected load: 45 kVA Dimensions: approx. L x W x H 2.5 x 1.8 x 2.1 m Weight: approx. 6 t Operating hours: approx. 24,952 h Machining time: approx. 1,247 h Scope of supply: Bar feeder IEMCA KID 80/16, year 2018 Coolant system

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1989, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 490 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 290 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 390 mm, Technical Data: Main Drive: Pole-reversible three-phase brake motor with right/left rotation ..... .. 2.0/4.0 kW 21 programmable spindle speeds ..... 25 ... 2500 rpm Tool holder in retractable quill . . . . . . NK40 Switch-operated tool clamp Feed Drive: Central DC motor with electromagnetic clutches ..... . ..... 1.4 kW (5Nm) Feed rate (programmable) ·· . . . . . . 5 ... 500 mm/min Feed correction ... ! . . ... . . . . . . from 20 to 120% Rapid traverse for X, Y, Z ..... ... . 1500 mm/min Travel range, motor/manual: X (longitudinal) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 490/500 mm Y (lateral) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 290/300 mm Kwedpfx Ajymc Upjgzeu Z (vertical) without bellows . . . . . . 390/400 mm with bellows . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 345/355 mm + Vertical milling head on spindle carrier manually adjustable ..... ... ..... .. ... 200 mm Machine dimensions (min.) Length/Width/Height ..... . 1420x1290x1870 mm (see also foundation plan) Note: We offer flexible financing solutions for all machines as well as a professional relocation service. Dismantling, transport, and expert installation – all from a single source. Billing based on individual conditions and contract term. Contact us for your personal offer.

Year of construction: 2025, condition: new, functionality: fully functional, electric motor power 2.2 kW, motor speed 1400 rpm, rolling speed 6.9 m/min, pressure of rolls on steel plate up to 1.2 mm, additional pressing rolls included Kwedpfxjymc Uco Agzju

Condition: ready for operation (used), Year of construction: 1997, functionality: unexamined, CNC Wire Bending Machine Kwodpeymc T Sefx Agzou Make: WAFIOS Model: BM4 Year: 1997 Technical Data: Wire diameter range: 1.5–8 mm Feed length: °° CNC bending axes: 7 Speed – meters/min: 80

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1994, functionality: fully functional, travel distance X-axis: 600 mm, travel distance Y-axis: 450 mm, travel distance Z-axis: 450 mm, quill stroke: 80 mm, rapid traverse X-axis: 6 m/min, rapid traverse Y-axis: 6 m/min, rapid traverse Z-axis: 6 m/min, workpiece weight (max.): 6 kg, Tool holder: 40 Magazine positions: 20 Machine weight: 3,200 kg Dimensions: Length: 2,740 mm Width: 2,660 mm Height: 2,140 mm Note: We offer flexible financing solutions for all machines as well as a professional relocation service. Disassembly, transport, and expert installation – all from one source. Billing according to individual terms and duration. Contact us for your personal offer. Kjdpoymc T Esfx Agzjwu

Condition: used, Year of construction: 1999, Technical details: pass through height: 2000 mm tank capacity: 800 l cycle time: - sec Heating capacity: 45 kW electrics - voltage/frequency: 400/50 V/Hz lifting capacity: 2000 kg temperature range: max. 65 °C total power requirement: 63 KW daylight opening: 2000 mm space requirements of the machine approx.: 3.800 m Kedpfxsymc Txo Agzewu *

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2015, CMZ TC 35 Y-800 Swing over bed / slide: 920 / 745 mm Max. turning diameter: 550 mm Distance spindle – tailstock: 866 mm Axis travels X / Y / Z / B: 310 / +80 / −60 / 800 / 803 mm Rapid traverse X / Z / B: 30 m/min Rapid traverse Y: 15 m/min Main spindle: Max. speed: 3,000 rpm Power: 45 / 39 kW at 1,500 / 1,273 Nm Bearing diameter (outer / inner): 240 / 160 mm Spindle bore: 106 mm Bar capacity: 95 mm Chuck diameter: 315 mm Tailstock: Quill diameter / stroke: 110 / 150 mm Travel: 800 mm Tool turret: 12 stations, all driven Max. speed: 4,000 rpm Power: 16 kW Max. torque: 75 Nm CNC control: FANUC 32i TB Supply voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz Connected load: 65 kVA Machine dimensions (L x W x H): approx. 3 x 2 x 2.2 m Weight: approx. 8.3 t Kwodpfx Ageymc Trezou Operating hours: approx. 21,934 h Cutting time: approx. 3,899 h Scope of delivery: Bar feeder: BREUNING IRCO ILS-MUK 10016-II, year 2015 Coolant unit

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2000, INDEX MS42C Max. bar diameter: 42 mm Spindle pitch circle diameter: 320 mm Main spindle: - Power clamping with INDEX spring-loaded hollow clamping cylinder and collet - Max. clamping stroke: 4 mm - Actuation force: 26 kN Main spindle drive: - Rated power: 5 kW - Rated speed: 1,500 rpm - Rated torque: 32 Nm - Max. speed: 5,000 rpm Synchronous spindle and driven tool holder: - Rated power: 5.3 kW - Rated speed: 1,500 rpm - Rated torque: 34 Nm - Max. speed: 5,000 rpm Kedpoymc S Uofx Agzowu Cross slides: - Max. number: 10 - Travel (X): 70 mm - Travel (Z): 140 mm - Max. feed force +X: 11.4 kN - Max. feed force −X: 7.9 kN - Max. feed force +Z: 11.4 kN - Max. feed force −Z: 7.9 kN - Rapid traverse speed: 15 m/min Longitudinal spindles: - Quantity: 6 - Travel (Z): 240 mm - Max. feed force +Z: 15.1 kN - Max. feed force −Z: 11.6 kN - Rapid traverse speed: 15 m/min Cross slides for longitudinal spindles: - Max. number: 6 - Travel (X): 70 mm - Max. feed force +X: 11.4 kN - Max. feed force −X: 7.9 kN - Rapid traverse speed: 15 m/min Synchronous spindle: - Clamping system: spring-loaded clamping cylinder - Max. clamping diameter: 42 mm - Chuck outer diameter: 112 mm - Jaw stroke: 1 mm - Max. total clamping force: 13 kN Weight: approx. 11,000 kg Scope of delivery: - Hydraulic unit KNOLL KTS 32-48-T - Bar loader CUCCHI PLURIMANDRINO, year 2000 - Workshop cabinet with machine accessories - KNOLL VRF 500 - Chip conveyor KNOLL 400 S-1/250

Condition: used, mileage: 394,700 km, first registration: 04/2018, fuel type: diesel, tire size: 225/55R17C, axle configuration: 4x2, fuel: diesel, brakes: engine braking, color: other, gearing type: automatic, suspension: steel, Year of construction: 2018, Equipment: ABS, central locking, cruise control, electric window regulation, power mirror, trailer coupling, = Additional Options and Accessories = - CD player - Speed limiter - Alloy wheels - Headlights - Stability control - Standard air conditioning - Sun visor - Alternating current - Xenon lights Kwsdjymc S Iopfx Agzou = Further Information = Axle configuration Tire size: 225/55R17C Axle brand: Mercedes-Benz Brakes: Disc brakes Suspension: Leaf spring Front axle: Steered; Tire tread left: 5 mm; Tire tread right: 4 mm Rear axle: Tire tread left: 1 mm; Tire tread right: 2 mm Weights Curb weight: 2,150 kg Payload: 900 kg Gross vehicle weight: 3,050 kg Condition Damages: none

Condition: new, Year of construction: 2025, functionality: fully functional, number of straightening rollers: 3, product height (max.): 1,300 mm, total length: 1,700 mm, total height: 980 mm, total width: 600 mm, working width: 1,300 mm, product width (max.): 1,300 mm, overall weight: 160 kg, warranty duration: 24 months, power: 1.5 kW (2.04 HP), actuation type: electric, W11G – maximum material thickness 1.5 mm, with gearbox Kwsdpfx Agjymc Szszou

Condition: good (used), mileage: 830,000 km, power: 338 kW (459.55 HP), first registration: 01/2013, fuel type: diesel, axle configuration: 6x2, wheelbase: 48,000 mm, fuel: diesel, color: black, driver cabin: sleeper cab, gearing type: automatic, number of gears: 12, emission class: euro5, Year of construction: 2013, Equipment: AdBlue, central locking, fog lights, parking heater, tail-lift, = Additional Options and Equipment = - Rear work lights - Front work lights - Heated mirrors - Windscreen - Auxiliary heater - Pre-heating automatic system = Remarks = Coming soon; Volvo FH13.460 Globetrotter XL 6x2 – Box body with side doors – Tail-lift + Kelberg trailer 2012 with tail-lift MY: 2013 Mileage: 830,000 km YV2AG20C2DA738043 = Further Information = Availability Stock status: Expected soon Technical Information Number of cylinders: 6 Gross vehicle weight: 27,000 kg Transmission Gearbox: I-Shift, 12-speed, automatic Axle Configuration Front axle: Max. axle load: 8,000 kg; Steering axle Rear axle 1: Dual tires; Max. axle load: 11,500 kg Kjdpfxjymc Sno Agzjwu Rear axle 2: Max. axle load: 7,500 kg Functional Tail-lift: Zepro, rear tailgate Condition Technical condition: good Optical condition: good Further information Contact VAEX The Truck Traders for more information.

Condition: used, Year of construction: 2019, CMZ TA 20 YS-640 Swing over bed / slide: 760 / 600 mm Max. turning diameter: 460 mm Kwedpfx Ajymc Sbjgzsu Distance between main and sub spindle: 649 mm Axis travels X / Y / Z / B: 310 / +70 / −50 / 640 / 640 mm Rapid traverse X / Z / B: 30 m/min Rapid traverse Y: 15 m/min Main spindle: Max. speed: 4,000 rpm Power: 22 / 15 kW at 366 / 286 Nm Bearing diameter external / internal: 150 / 100 mm Spindle bore: 73 mm Bar capacity: 66 mm Chuck diameter: 210 mm Tool turret: 12 stations, all driven Max. speed: 12,000 rpm Power: 11.3 / 8.1 kW Max. torque: 75 Nm Sub spindle: Max. speed: 4,500 rpm Power: 14 / 8 kW at 292 / 153 Nm Bearing diameter external / internal: 150 / 100 mm Spindle bore: 61 mm Bar capacity: 52 mm Chuck diameter: 175 mm CNC control: FANUC 32i TB Voltage: 400 V / 50 Hz Connected load: 45 kVA Dimensions (L x W x H): approx. 2.5 x 1.8 x 2.1 m Weight: approx. 6.3 t Operating hours: approx. 14,129 h Cutting hours: approx. 321 h Scope of delivery: - Bar feeder BREUNING IRCO SiMag 80.1-R-3000 II, year 2015 - Coolant unit

Condition: used, mileage: 12,426 km, power: 272 kW (369.82 HP), first registration: 07/2000, fuel type: diesel, maximum load weight: 16,350 kg, overall weight: 32,000 kg, emission class: euro2, For information Kwedpfeymc R Rsx Agzou

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, mileage: 81,986 km, number of beds: 2, number of seats: 4, fuel type: diesel, gearing type: mechanical, color: white, chassis manufacturer: Fiat, chassis model: Ducato 2.3 Mjet, total length: 5,990 mm, total width: 2,050 mm, total height: 2,520 mm, axle configuration: 2 axles, emission class: euro6, fuel tank capacity: 90 l, overall weight: 3,500 kg, operation weight: 2,810 kg, steering wheel position: left, number of previous owners: 1, Year of construction: 2023, machine/vehicle number: ZFA25000002W61064, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, airbag, bathroom, car registration, central locking, electronic stability program (ESP), fog lights, full service history, lift bed, navigation system, onboard computer, onboard kitchen, parking sensors, power assisted steering, second-hand vehicle warranty, shower, soot filter, truck registration, We offer flexible consumer credit options for easy, stress-free purchases! The Nomad campervan is designed for travellers seeking freedom and comfort on the road. Whether you’re planning a weekend getaway or an extended road trip, this camper is built to meet all your travel needs with reliability and practicality. 💰 Warranty and Money-Back Guarantee ✔ 1-year Indie Campers warranty 🛡️ ✔ Satisfaction guaranteed! Try it for 14 days and if you’re not satisfied, we’ll refund your money! ✔ Fully inspected and ready to hit the road! What makes this camper special? ✅ Spacious and comfortable: At 599 cm in length and 252 cm in height, it offers plenty of space to relax. Kwedpfx Ajymc R Dogzeu ✅ Fuel-efficient and powerful: 2.3 Mjet diesel engine, 120 hp, manual transmission, Euro 6 emission class. ✅ Perfect for 4 people: Equipped with 4 seats and 2 beds, ideal for families or group travel. ✅ Fully equipped for the road: Includes gas heating, auxiliary heater, air conditioning, and separate shower. ✅ Safety and convenience: Fitted with ABS, ESP, rear parking sensors, and power steering for a smooth drive. ✅ Try before you buy – Not sure if it’s the right fit for you? You can rent the camper for as many days as you wish to get familiar with it and make sure it’s perfect for your adventures. Get on the road with Nomad! The Nomad campervan is in high demand! Don’t wait: book a viewing and make it yours today.

Condition: good (used), functionality: fully functional, machine/vehicle number: LDE1659, mileage: 138,111 km, power: 100 kW (135.96 HP), first registration: 10/2020, fuel type: diesel, empty load weight: 1,800 kg, maximum load weight: 1,000 kg, overall weight: 2,800 kg, next inspection (TÜV): 01/2026, fuel: diesel, energy efficiency: D, color: white, gearing type: mechanical, number of gears: 6, emission class: euro6, number of seats: 3, total length: 4,895 mm, total width: 1,928 mm, total height: 1,910 mm, loading space length: 2,650 mm, loading space width: 1,650 mm, loading space height: 1,350 mm, Year of construction: 2020, Equipment: ABS, AdBlue, Bluetooth, EBS, USB port, air conditioning, airbag, car registration, central locking, cruise control, electric window regulation, full service history, hill-start assist, navigation system, non-smoking vehicle, onboard computer, power assisted steering, power mirror, sliding door, soot filter, start-stop system, tire pressure monitoring, traction control, truck registration, Optional extras: Trailer hitch: Electrics for trailer socket Audio 40 audio navigation system (DAB+, Bluetooth, USB) Electric exterior mirrors Adjustable and heated, both DAB tuner (digital radio reception) Automatic headlight activation Driver Assistance Package Rear door without glass (opening angle 180 degrees) Wooden floor in the cargo area Comfort lighting in the passenger/cargo area Fuel tank: Enlarged Steering wheel (mechanically adjustable steering column) Multifunction steering wheel including trip computer Parameterizable special module Parking Package Windshield wiper with rain sensor Seats in the driver's cab: Two-seater passenger seat Cover in the cargo/engine compartment: Plywood Heat-insulating glazing Two-way speakers in the front Additional equipment: 3-button remote control for central locking 3rd brake light Kwodeymc Rqopfx Agzou Adaptive brake light Passenger side airbag Driver side airbag Start-off assist (Hill Start Assist) Aspherical exterior mirrors, both Outside temperature display Mounting rails for Roof rack BlueEfficiency package Brake assist, braking system with ABS+ASR Base design and equipment line Driving assistance system: Attention Assist (drowsiness detection sensor) Driving assistance system: Breakdown management Driving assistance system: Crosswind assist Windshield with windscreen antenna 6-speed transmission - FSG, Belt tensioner, grab handle on the passenger side Lockable glove compartment Body/structure: Box body, Body/structure: Compact Communication module (LTE) for digital services Continuous cargo compartment partition Mercedes-Benz emergency call system Model update, engine 1.7 liter - 100 kW CDI CAT Rear fog light Wheelbase 3200 mm Low emissions according to the Euro 6d-TEMP emissions standard Sliding door for the cargo/passenger compartment on the right Seat belt system with warning system (driver/passenger side) Seat cover/upholstery: Fabric, cab seats: Adjustable driver's seat Steel rims 6.5x16 Maintenance interval indicator Assyst Gross weight 2.80 t Loading space L: 2.65 m Loading space W: 1.65 m Loading space H: 1.35 m

Condition: excellent (used), functionality: fully functional, mileage: 81,807 km, number of beds: 2, number of seats: 4, fuel type: diesel, gearing type: mechanical, color: white, chassis manufacturer: Fiat, chassis model: Ducato 2.3 Mjet, total length: 5,990 mm, total width: 2,050 mm, total height: 2,520 mm, axle configuration: 2 axles, emission class: euro6, fuel tank capacity: 90 l, overall weight: 3,500 kg, operation weight: 2,810 kg, steering wheel position: left, number of previous owners: 1, Year of construction: 2023, machine/vehicle number: ZFA25000002W66229, Equipment: ABS, air conditioning, airbag, bathroom, car registration, central locking, electronic stability program (ESP), fog lights, full service history, lift bed, navigation system, onboard computer, onboard kitchen, parking sensors, power assisted steering, second-hand vehicle warranty, shower, soot filter, truck registration, We offer flexible consumer credit options for easy, stress-free purchases! The Nomad campervan is designed for travellers seeking freedom and comfort on the road. Whether you’re planning a weekend getaway or an extended road trip, this camper is built to meet all your travel needs with reliability and practicality. 💰 Warranty and Money-Back Guarantee ✔ 1-year Indie Campers warranty 🛡️ ✔ Satisfaction guaranteed! Try it for 14 days and if you’re not satisfied, we’ll refund your money! ✔ Fully inspected and ready to hit the road! What makes this camper special? ✅ Spacious and comfortable: At 599 cm in length and 252 cm in height, it offers plenty of space to relax. ✅ Fuel-efficient and powerful: 2.3 Mjet diesel engine, 120 hp, manual transmission, Euro 6 emission class. ✅ Perfect for 4 people: Equipped with 4 seats and 2 beds, ideal for families or group travel. ✅ Fully equipped for the road: Includes gas heating, auxiliary heater, air conditioning, and separate shower. Ksdpfx Agoymc N Tszowu ✅ Safety and convenience: Fitted with ABS, ESP, rear parking sensors, and power steering for a smooth drive. ✅ Try before you buy – Not sure if it’s the right fit for you? You can rent the camper for as many days as you wish to get familiar with it and make sure it’s perfect for your adventures. Get on the road with Nomad! The Nomad campervan is in high demand! Don’t wait: book a viewing and make it yours today.